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| Hpathy Ezine - July, 2007 | ||||
A Fish Out of Water-- Dr. Sujit Chatterjee |
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P: This is the only dream I have. Mostly I told you that I get a good sleep or just only….. Once only…… whichever time I get….. There is breakage in my sleep because of this. Otherwise I don’t remember if I… D: This is the only dream, you were describing breathless, so how would you describe the dream? Scenario of the dream? P: It is the same. This dream is few days back my wife said that I was shouting “chor chor, chor’ (thief) D: Don’t remember anything? P: Thief cases….. I thought that some theft cases is going on. D: In the dream, scenario if you remember. P: This much only, I don’t have clear image. Somebody is going (HG) away. (Pause) No, I don’t remember. Dreams there are certain, which I have. Dreams I don’t remember, mostly. D: Just form a dream with this. Same thing, same feeling, what kind of thing can be in the dream, to describe the same feeling? Might be your dream that way. P: Regarding dream I told you, it is difficult for me. D: O.K. strong fear in life.? P : My strong fear in life (pause) Lately may be it is because I fear of death only. D: Tell me little more? P: Earlier I have never had…. I was a little bit desperate type of person. I never thought of death. Now, I have become cautions that it may cause death or anything. And suddenly if I die, I have not done anything legal or anything? D: Eh? P: Anything [like a] will or anything legal anything to my… that sometimes makes me little worried. D: Tell me more? The worry part, the fear part? You have not done legal will. So, what’s the worry? P: Whether these people, my wife, my child will be able to… they will be able to manage everything or not in my absence. That sometimes it takes some of my time. When I find that they do everything themselves, I tell then to go to, you do this, this job you do, this job you do. D: Why you have not done will? There must be some reason? P: No. I have no reason. I have nothing. It is everything… will 1 P.F. (Provident Fund) my wife is a nominee. There is my house, block I have taken that is jointly we are owning. My wife’s name is there. Another plot I have purchased is on my wife’s name only. So, some property is there in her name only. D: Where is the problem? P: Land I have taken at Lonavala. D: So where is the problem? P: The problem is whether they will be able to… that…. I have taken it at Lonavala, she has gone only once. This sometimes creates problems whether to keep it or….. D: You said fear of death. How you are going to die? If something happen. P: Yes, something,…… my B.P. is normal. B.P. I don’t have. But, I told you sometimes I have got some chest pain or anything. I go to Dr. he told it is normal. E.C.G. is normal. Then why should it be, as I get the chest pain, sometimes I get….. D: Your gesture is little interesting, what comes to your mind why are you holding it (chair)like this way when thinking about chest pain. P: (Gesture) nothing. D: Just reply what is this holding? You were holding in while saying…. P: (Gesture) Just keeping hands level. D: What are your hobbies and interests? P: Hobbies earlier. Now, I remain busy with my job. D: Tell me about your hobbies? P: I like reading books. At present I read only newspapers, one paper…. D: Your past is different, something you wanted to say? P: Past hobbies - few years back I was reader. I used to read too much then (pause) smoking, I used to drink also. D: Few years back, what were your hobbies? P: I was interested in outdoor games. D: Like? P: Games, I used to play football, cricket. Football was my special liking. Reading, fictions or literature, Tagore literature or Sharatchandra, different literature. Literature, I used to read books. Pictures I used to see but not much. D: At one point you said, earlier you were desperate, What is desperate? P: Desperate in the sense --- Games, if I am there then I will play games only. I was not thinking about what will happen next. Do it, means do it go. Let us see whatever it happens. We will see. D: Tell me about your childhood, some typical incident, if you remember? P: I am the first child of my parents. My mother lost two babies actually. D: First two? P: Yes. First two. First two or one, I think, first she lost in the womb only and second one I think was very small. So, naturally they were very protective about me. I was very interested in games and everything. I was a good drama artist also. Very good drama, I used to play. Games also I played, but I was selected in the team, but I was not allowed to go out of Oondhia. D: Out of? P: Oondhia, my birth place. Many tournaments we have to go outside, school tournaments and all. I was not allowed to go. Scout I was there. Scout picnics or anything. Picnics I was not allowed to go. I was not allowed to go anywhere. You remain at home. They were allowing my brother to go. He was allowed to go for picnic, from school. I was not. I was never allowed. But I don’t blame my mother. It was because of protection. She lost her child and may be somebody has told that you take care of this child also. So, she was very careful, if I do something or I commit some… may be if I met with some accident or anything. That’s what her psychological force on me was. D: How does that feel? P: Many times I felt like many times with my friend we used to go to chat. After school we used to go to some distant place, to tank, we used to have bath without telling the mother. And I used to fight with others, young or older than me and get angry then whatever I get, I used to bang it on them (HG). D: Bang meaning? P: Bang means…. Once while playing Cricket somebody older than me, not giving… not out, I took the wicket and threw it away (HG) and just vanished from that place. I was so angry that I did not go home. D: What is protecting? P: Protecting means she was taking extra protection about me. That is she was not allowing me. I was told not to take, food to anybody’s house. Everybody was going from my house, any marriage invitation or anything, any invitation they used to go but I was not going. I was not allowed to eat outside. As if everybody is going to give some poison to me. Same feelings with my wife also. She won’t allow me. Don’t go anywhere. In office, there are lots of invitations You go to attend that marriage. O.K. You go there wish them well and come back. Don’t eat anything. Somebody has told her tell your husband not to eat anywhere. D: How does that feel all the time this protection? P: Scientifically there is absolutely nowhere…. No one is going to serve me poison or anything. I don’t believe in these things. That they will feed me something, you will suffer. D: What’s your feeling? P: I don’t like it. But what to do for peace at home, I have to keep quiet. O.K. I will not go. Out of 100 marriage cards, I attend hardly 5 of them. I give excuses. D: Why peace at home is important? P: Peace at home is important. Naturally, it is a very important thing. My wife and my child go out in the morning 7 o’clock. She goes for class. Then I go at 8.30- 9.00 o’clock and by 7.30 – 8.00 o’clock I go there and bring them home. So, 8 o’clock we are there. So 12-13 hours we are just (HG) separate. We are away. D: Separate means? P: Separate means, they are at Chembur. Morning she goes away at night we come back. That is also a problem. One of the problems. It is definitely that I like Chembur that she should be there. Why should she be there at Chembur at her mothers place? Drop her. I will drop her to school, you remain at home. D: So then? 12 hours. P: 12 hours (HG). So it may be a reason. What should I say? For my child to…. Away from me. Because hardly how much time, she gets me. At 8 o’clock, 8.30, she comes. ½ hour, 1 hour she will see T.V. & then studies only. She goes for studies. Hardly she gets anytime or anything to talk with me. D: What’s your feeling? P: I feel that she should speak to me. Because I was a good storyteller earlier. For children I used to be an entertainer. I was a storyteller – I used to make stories I used to write poems and all, I used to write children poems. I have seen my friend’s children. They used to come to me. Just a flock around me . I used to tell them. All are grown up now. My own child, whenever I try to….. I never got really interested. D: So you were answering about, why peace is important at home. P: Yes, peace is important. Now by saying that I want to go at this place. She says no, there are certain compulsions in office or anything and in relations also. But why go there, she will not be happy. 2-3 days she will not talk to me. D: Then what will happen? P: At home we are there. 2 hours we don’t try to talk or say a word or anything. D: So what is the problem? P: Mentally I get…… mentally it is not satisfying. D: How is the feeling? Mentally in that situation? P: I get. This is an irritation I mean. I feel sad. My wife is not talking. My child is not talking. Child also behaves in mother’s fashion only. Child also, she says, she is attracted towards her mother. So she also tries that she should not hurt the mother. I mean if she talks with me much, then her mother will get hurt. “You are speaking with your father now. You don’t need me.” That’s the problem. D: Overall what’s your feeling about this situation? P: It pains me. D: Describe pain? P: I feel hurt. D: Describe this hurt? The way you describe to your close friends, the same you describe this hurt feeling? P: Hurt feeling is (Pause)……… hurt feeling……… (Pause) No child, if you explain to the child….. I have seen that other children tell their experience in the school to their parents. And it is said also psychologically you should give some time for the children so that whatever they want to express you should listen. I feel that this is not the case with my daughter. She comes and tells and I know and I see always, she comes and tells to her mother and not to me. She knows… to all that continuous she will go on talking with her mother. D: So you feel? P: Hurt. D: Instead of hurt, give one more word? P: I feel actually, I shouldn’t say neglected it is not a neglection… then I keep…. I say O.K., it is O.K. I accept it. It may be mother and child, mother and girl, they have more subtle talks then she doesn’t want to talk. School result or anything she will tell to her mother, tuition teacher. D: One more word, not neglected then what it is? P: But she doesn’t say this to me. Result comes; whenever mark sheet comes when my signature is required she comes to me. “Dad, this is the paper, you sign it.” But I should….. I expected she would show me that papers they come to know, English paper I got these marks. D: You expect, but she doesn’t come to you. So what’s your feeling when you say hurt? P: Naturally I feel, she should have come. There is a hurt…. Hurting only. This is hurting only, child should come to parents. D: Why don’t you talk? P: I told you, I have tried to but that is limited. I am also a little less talker at home. I don’t talk too much. I prefer…… whatever needed you should talk. But needed you should talk, if they feel needed they should also talk. D: Any incidence that has a very strong impact upon your mind right from childhood. P: Worst phase I feel that when I was in 9th standard that time I scored very poorly in the quarterly exam in Math. That time I had a very, very bad feeling. Actually sometimes there is a desperation we can as a student can commit suicide or anything. That time I had this type of feeling with my very poor marks. Because I joined school late. I had a chicken-pox or something type of something in the 8th standard, so I could not appear for the exam at the proper time. When the school reopened that time they took my exam and they promoted me. Then I changed my school and joined 9th standard in some another school. That time they had more than half a portion…. After 1 month joined that school. So within 1 month I could not cope up with 9th studies Mathematics especially Math. In that 1 month I had a very bad feeling. I still remember it … Then after that six monthly exam, I faired better I improved myself consistently in 9th. In the final, I had very good marks. I scored well. D: That 1 month was your main feeling, when you said, I couldn’t cope up? P: 1 month my feeling was….. Why…. Immediately I told them that I would not study math. I want to change the school again. I won't be able to do math. D: Why? P: Very badly I failed. I could not understand the method. D: Why have you been so badly impacted by this incident? P: Student if he is unable to cope up with the studies, such a bad….. Then naturally….. And I was not a bad student. I was an above medium. I can say, not a brilliant, but not a bad student. I was passing every year. So that had….. That’s partly because Science. I had got good marks, in literature…. D: If you are a bad student then? P: If it continues then we are not bothered. I am poor student throughout I am passing, just passing, its O.K., I am passing. When I am…….. in the school, with the class….. I was a rank holder. Then suddenly I find in the 9th that I am unable to do anything in math, and math was my favourite subject throughout. And after that also I continued Physics and math. D: How do you react to T.V. channels? P: T.V. I like to see. Now we have removed the cable we are seeing …. Just only news I see. D: Any favourite channels? P: I see only news now at present. D: Before. P: Earlier, cable we had, cable the soap operas and all soaps, serials I was not much interested in serials. Some serial means some detective serial, I used to see. Detective serials I like. Detective stories also I like. Sherlock Homes and all these old type of serials then. Vyomkesh Bakshi’s all stories, I liked. D: Exactly what is very fascinating in the detective stories or Vyomkesh Bakshi? P: Vyomkesh Bakshi, that is using the Science and detecting that complete. D: One example? P: Many times, many stories he has came and (pause) there are different uses of Science. By using science he helped to prove this is not the case. That is detective stories I like. I like Sharatchandra stories. Now if someone will tell me to read Sharatchandra stories, I will not read. I cannot see any movie, any serious type of movie, I will not see. No putting business in the serial, I just stop. I feel that you should laugh only, that’s all laughter things. D: Why no crying? P: I don’t like. That’s why I said Sharatchandra was my favourite story teller, but I don’t like to read now. Somebody gives it….. And one of my favourite characters in Sharatchandra’s Shrikant and Vyomkesh Bakshi. D: What do you like about Shrikant? P: Helping others. Nature of helping others. Selfless person. I also naturally… my nature I don’t expect anything from you. I never expected anything from anybody. I never told my parents to give this or that and today also I don’t expect much from my wife or my child, from the office also. Things whichever I like, I do. That Union activities I like I am there in the union and to help others in other way. D: At one point in very beginning you said, that once you remove that thing, your body becomes free with gesture. What is free? P: Free means, now I am able to move my body. Previously I was unable to move my body. Neither my hands nor my body. I was unable to move. As if something is there on my body (HG) I have just thrown (HG) it that weight. That weight or anything I have thrown it. Now I can move. I can move my body. It has become free. D: Little more about free? Disconnect everything what is free? P: Free means the freedom to move. I was unable to move my body. I was unable to do normal breathing and all. Now after doing, after this, I found that I can breathe properly. I can move my body. I can just have…. This (left lateral) side I can sleep, on this side (right lateral) I can sleep, that freeness. D: Anything else, you will like to add? P: In this relation only. D: Apart from that. Anything about you. Any important aspect, if I have missed. P: I have told you. Last time also I had told you, during summer I was feeling very tired. Remember, because you told me to take some iron capsules and everything. In summer I am feeling last 2-3 years or severe summer I am feeling very vicarious position it becomes. I don’t get energy. I cannot walk much. I feel like, I don’t like to go out in Sun, that is one thing. Earlier it was not used to be. Earlier I used to like the summer season only. Now I feel summer, I don’t like the summer and these certain food like this snacks and all I eat, this may be causing acidity and the gas problems. That is causing. D: I will take care. P: Yes, My legs. I have got this. D: you did sonography for that? P: Yes. D: Deep vein thrombosis. P: yes, yes. This portion has become, this is blackish. Earlier I used to get pain, but I don’t get pain now. I don’t have any pain in this. D: How do you react to animals? P: I like cats, cats I like. Dogs also we have. Only once we had a dog. But suddenly one day we find that where it went God knows. After that we did not get any more dogs at home. Only once we had. The cats are there always in our ancestral house. Cats are always there. My mother she feeds them. She feeds them milk and rice and everything. My father was really fond of fish. So everyday we used to prepare fish at home. So, they had a good food at home. So the cats they used to remain. And it is actually a small town. Rat menace is there. Rat menace, cats are at home. That rat menace is gone. D: In your whole case, can you tell me at your own home, when your daughter is more involved with your wife. What’s the feeling? Apart from hurt, something more. What is missing? Compared to other parents, what is missing in your relationship? P: The thing is my wife was working. My wife was working in her childhood days. My child mostly she was grown up with my mother-in-law. And from the beginning I have seen that they wanted to shield her. They wanted to shield her from me. I used to tell, I will take her. But No, don’t take her, she will get cold. This, that! So much of restrictions! I said, let her go outside, let her play little, ‘No, no, don’t allow her to play with other children. This, that.’ So there is always restriction they put on her. So that has made her…. Her nature has also become little. Naturally they have shielded her from me. I felt that it has….. D: How is the experience of that? If own daughter is shielded away from you. P: Naturally now you may be remembering her food habits. She used to take milk. I used to tell that you give her some other things also. But no, milk only, milk only, milk only. Then you sent her to Dr. Anand. Then Dr. Anand explained. Dr. Anand explained to her the importance of eating everything. Otherwise the child up to the age of 7 she is surviving on milk only, what will be her condition? So this has……. Our relation was soured because of this. D: Umm? P: My relation with my wife is always used to be tensed. Every time she takes to her mother… she was…. both have become dependent on that old lady only. D: What’s your opinion? P: So, naturally I am….. I used to dislike it. But what should I do? What can I do? At certain point we feel that husband and wife relation, a husband has to keep quiet.
FOLLOW UP 18 Feb 06 [2 months after the remedy] D: So, how are you? P: Feeling little better. I came last time 10 days ago. 7th or so I came here, to take medicine. I had a main complaint of sneezing. I can say today that in last 10 days I have been taking this medicine. I didn’t have this problem at most I didn’t face it. But cough it is, slight, little cough is there sometimes it comes in morning time then also it has reduced. I think more than 60-70% it has come down. D: What other change you can appreciate compared to December and today when I retook your case? Compared to that day and today. P: Definitely, there is vast change in it. Because those days I had…. Almost every 7-10 days I was having this sneezing and all. Then, night sleep also I was not getting. I had told you some…. Actually night what type of…. I used to suddenly …. I used to wake up that now I am not feeling that. D: That someone is sitting on the chest? Not able to breath and all those things, How is that sensation? P: That feeling I don’t have. I have not faced it for the last 7 days. That I think after last medicine only after that I have not had that experience. Now these 10 days especially I had these sneezing and lot of coughing. That experience last time also it was almost reduced. D: How is your overall mood? P: Mood has also improved a lot. Food intake is also O.K. But, some gas problems sometimes I do feel. May be because I take some times outside food. D: I will take care. P: Little acidity. And otherwise even relations and it is O.K. I behave normally with my family.
FOLLOW UP 6 July 06 (7 months after the remedy) D: What are the changes? P: Changes actually last I have been taking type of fear psychosis had kept into me during night time I use to get bout of feeling as if something is sitting on my chest, as if something is pressing my chest, after taking this medicine it has completely gone off, or has not repeated after that, almost about 5-6 months, it has not repeated, I don’t have any other feeling in this sense. D: What about your nose block, choking feeling. P: Yes, nose block, that cold, bout of cold every 7 to 10 days cold, sneezing and everything, now that also definitely very much improvement in that and I got relief in that also. D: You got any choking feeling? P: No. that choking feeling, I am not feeling, that is completely cleared, that night time what I use to feel is completely cleared, I use to sneeze, at night time I use to snore actually that is also reduced, may be it has, I don’t know, any relation to that, that snoring is also reduced, may be, my wife says I use to snore too much, that has come down. D: Any dream? P: Dreams, I don’t have, that’s the problem with me, I don’t have feeling of the dreams, I don’t dream, once I sleep, I get very sound sleep, once I sleep around 11, 12 o’clock. I get sound sleep. D: In December you said, your wife said you used to say (chor, chor) thief, thief. P: Yes, yes, I used to say, but after that I haven’t repeated, few times I have said that, but after that I haven’t repeated it. D: How is your overall mood? P: Mood has changed, I am now more optimistic, I have better relations with my family, my daughter, my wife, I don’t have any grudge or anything, I feel my mood is even better in my office. I have better relations with my office colleagues, my mood has also changed. D: How can you definitely say my medicine has helped you? P: Definitely this case I have come to you, this are all very old case, I was feeling this for last, but I use to feel how to tell a doctor about it, once I discussed with you, you said tell me. You encouraged me to tell, I told you, because I never felt, this dreaming or this feeling at night time that somebody is pressing my chest with any medicine it can be cured, I thought it’s a case of some psychosis or it’s the case of some mind or something, may be I have to carry it all my life, but after this medicine, I solved this case. D: Anything else about you? P: Definitely, my food habits, my food intake is also changed earlier I use to take little less, now I feel hungry, every 2-3 hours, I feel I should take something, sandwich or anything else, whatever I get, I take this, then family friend also I had very interlinked relations, whatever feelings I had for my daughter. I don’t have now, I am good friend now she is also good, I feel she was good already also. May be there may be some lacuna in me; my whole character changes might have affected that. D: What was that lacuna? P: Lacuna in the sense, strict, I was very short tempered sometimes with very small things I use to get irritated that irritation has come down, very small thing I use to get irritated on my wife, my daughter, so anything against my opinion, I use to feel that is not good. So that I have tried to reconcile my self, that I have tried to accept it. That I should also accept their views, and their views also have some value. So this tension also reduced. D: Any thing else? P: Last few days I couldn’t take the medicine, again I am feeling some cough problem, esp. I had another thing, during summer, summer use to be horrible for me. I am OK in all other seasons, but during summer after 12 o’clock, or 1 or 2 o’clock I use to sweat, I could not walk in the Sun that was also problem with me, that had also changed. This year, again last 15-20 days I have same feeling may be. I couldn’t take the medicine. I couldn’t come. I had some appointment, I was busy, I had some family problems, I couldn’t come again this last 10-15 days. D: Is it as severe as before? P: Not so much as before, I don’t say much, but again it started, it may go up again, this feeling may arise, otherwise being summer last 2-3 months I felt better this time. I definitely felt better. D: I will take care.
Remedy Given: OXYGEN 1M. [1 M was prescribed because we see more of imagination and delusions.]
UNDERSTANDING: • His main problem is that he is unable to breathe due to lack of oxygen and fears he might die. • He feels there is some overpowering force pressing, choking, not allowing him to breathe and he is unable to move. He needs courage, full force, lot of strength to push this force away: this would give him complete relief, freedom to move, can inhale the oxygen now and breathe. • This complaint has made him very desperate, put lot of restrictions on him and reduced his working capacity. •His state reminds me stages of development stuck at the end of the birth process where baby takes first independent breath. He emphasizes a lot on “Coming out ”(lot of energy). He used source word Oxygen several times. • Fish out of water – out of normal comfortable atmosphere. Reference from Vital .Quest. of Dr.Sankaran: • Oxygen is at the meeting point of series 2 and column 16.
Understanding of Series 2: There is an issue of separation. • He is an entity, but is he a part of something or is he separate? • When we study the development of the above understanding along the series 2, in the initial elements like Lithium, Beryllium, Boron we see no separation and there is an intense dependence on the mother figure. He feels insecure to have an independent existence. • From Carbon, Oxygen, Nitrogen onwards the separation starts and develops further up to Fluorine where the feeling is ‘I must break this attachment and be completely separate.’ Understanding of column 16: The structure is in ruins. • The structure has lost its utility completely. Everything that is of usefulness has been taken out. • In human terms the feeling is of loss of capacity, loss of energy, loss of ability to pursue things • Alone to face it. Understanding of Oxygen and Sulphur: When we study the elements of the periodic table in vertical columns they show some similarities in the problem of their structure. This holds true till column 14. In column 15, 16 and 17 you see some different behavior in the elements of series 1, 2, and 3 (Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Oxygen, Sulphur, Fluorine and Chlorine) • When you study the Homeopathic understanding of Series 4, 5 and 6, starting from column 1, you see gradual development of the structure reaching its peak at column 10 and then gradual loss of function and degeneration of the structure by column 17. But in Series 1, 2 and 3, the development of the structure is not complete at 10 and it continues to develop further in columns 15, 16 and 17. So from this, understanding of Oxygen could be: He is separated and takes his first breath. For e.g. In the remedy Ozone you see- desire to breathe deep, dreams of breathing under water. Ozone (Proving by Anna Schadde): GENERALITIES; BREATHING, inspiration, expiration; desire to breath deep Dreams: childbirth, of. DREAMS: BREATHE UNDER WATER, SHE CAN. End of the case.
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