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    Posted: 24 Oct. 09 at 02:42
I think you folks had misunderstood AlexS. Insinuating insults and calling names won't help your cause either.


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  Quote AlexS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct. 09 at 02:46
Originally posted by chiongguo

I think you folks had misunderstood AlexS. Insinuating insults and calling names won't help your cause either.




You are right !Clap

I think they have no proper background to discuss such things .


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We cannot say what exactly the vital force is! To me It looks like immune system.The time will prove. 
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  Quote Kaviraj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct. 09 at 06:23
Originally posted by chiongguo

I think you folks had misunderstood AlexS. Insinuating insults and calling names won't help your cause either.




I think you don't know Alex.

We know him all too well.

He thinks he knows something and proves by all his posts he is but out to waste our time with the hairsplitting condition. Figure it out for yourself. Look up his member posts.
No matter how much good advise he gets he will always argue till the cows come home and learn nothing from the experience.
And speaking about insults, read the threads and find out who is really the insulting one. To me he is a paid (or unpaid as the case may be) shill for big pharma.

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  Quote Kaviraj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct. 09 at 06:35
Alex wrote:
You are right !Clap

I think they have no proper background to discuss such things .

Chiongguo,
Here you have an example.
I have 45 years in the business and poor Alex has a bad experience with homoeopathy.

Yet he thinks he is qualified and we don't have the background. Clap
Now that is simply hubris.

I alsways quote the authorities in homoeopathy and the relevant research on allopathy, yet Alex of course knows better. And never quotes, but those who are opposed to homoeopathy. We misunderstand him? I think the misunderstanding is with you, I am afraid to say.

You have but 9 posts in so many years as a member. That shows me you are not an active participant. Yet you want to pontificate on Alex being misunderstood and accuse us of insults.
Give me an example.
Alex is the insulting one, plain and simple. He insults everyone's intelligence to start with.

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  Quote AlexS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct. 09 at 08:07
Originally posted by sajjadakram

We cannot say what exactly the vital force is! To me It looks like immune system.The time will prove. 
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But do homeopaths really  need in their work such shadow and not well defined concept ( actually it is undefined in Organon ) as Vital  Force ?
Or it is possible in each case to use other , more simple words ? Wink


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  Quote Kaviraj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct. 09 at 08:20
Well fist of all, Sajjad, the definitions i gave were clear enough in the distinctions i made between the soul and the defence mechanism. So we do know what the term "vital force" means from years of observation and confirmation.

The simple terms Alex is talking about have therefore already been defined. His question is, as usual, redundant.

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It is not necessary to go into details about the role of vital force or immune system. We are concerned with practical homeopathy and it is our belief and experience that homeopathy is a complete medical system and it works in every curable disease in a gentle way without damaging the patient. Clap
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Dear kaviraj,

Alex is a skeptic but mildSmile
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  Quote AlexS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct. 09 at 08:24
Originally posted by sajjadakram

It is not necessary to go into details about the role of vital force or immune system. We are concerned with practical homeopathy and it is our belief and experience that homeopathy is a complete medical system and it works in every curable disease in a gentle way without damaging the patient. Clap
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What do you mean when you write "a complete medical system" ?

in a gentle way without damaging the patient

May be ....Wink
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Alex is not alone.All the skeptics wants us to show the vital force in a plate.The have only 2-3 questions.Never more than that.
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  Quote sajjadakram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct. 09 at 08:34
Originally posted by AlexS

Originally posted by sajjadakram

It is not necessary to go into details about the role of vital force or immune system. We are concerned with practical homeopathy and it is our belief and experience that homeopathy is a complete medical system and it works in every curable disease in a gentle way without damaging the patient. Clap
sajjad.


What do you mean when you write "a complete medical system" ?

in a gentle way without damaging the patient

May be ....Wink
Alex,
Read organon repeatedly. My daughter told me that a few days ago, a young boy was admitted in a costly private hospital. His only complaint was pain in the stomach. Investigations revealed nothing. They decided to open his stomach. After two hours, dead body came out of the operation theatre.This is "damaging".
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  Quote Kaviraj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct. 09 at 08:36
Dear Sajjad,

mild is not the term i use for him. You are entitled to your idea about him, but mine is entirely different, if his posts are anything to go by. As the saying goes, actions speak louder than words.
There is nothing wrong with being sceptical - my own definition of the terms for the vital force is a case in point. A sceptic, when he uses his brains and is open to scientific explanations, will adjust his judgement.
Complete detraction of the homoeopathc method by insulting us with terms like schizoids is quite another matter. A shallow critic will resort to denial - which is more than that famous river in Egypt - and slanderous remarks through lack of proper argument. He will remain in his preconceived and prejudiced state of mind regardless all the good advise he gets.
It would be interesting to collect and collate all the threads he has started, just so he can excercise his inane hairsplitting arguments. At first i had the idea he really wanted to know. Soon, by his own actions, he has shown everyone but a few that he just likes to argue and be insulting. That is hardly mild or innocent.
It is about time we expose him loud and clear for what he is. As you may have noticed, he is silent about my comments, because he knows that i will shoot down his less than intelligent arguments as spurious and unscientific, regardless his claims to their "scientific" nature.

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  Quote AlexS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct. 09 at 08:42
Originally posted by sajjadakram

Alex is not alone.All the skeptics wants us to show the vital force in a plate.The have only 2-3 questions.Never more than that.
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You ascribe me words which I never write .

I wrote about other things .


Could anybody bring EM waves in a plate ? Wink

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  Quote AlexS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct. 09 at 08:44
Originally posted by sajjadakram

[This is "damaging".
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Read Margaret Tyler , about her damaging practices .



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Dear Kaviraj,
I know that you are a straightforward person.They cannot face you.Your arguments are perfect and scientific..
Best regards.
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  Quote sajjadakram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct. 09 at 08:48
Originally posted by AlexS

Originally posted by sajjadakram

[This is "damaging".
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Read Margaret Tyler , about her damaging practices .



Please quote some references.It is difficult for me to locate.
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  Quote Kaviraj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct. 09 at 08:57
Read Alex, about his damaging practises, such as insulting someone who is not alive to defend herself.

Alex wrote:
"Read Margaret Tyler , about her damaging practices ."

Alex, you are disgusting.
The actions of a coward.

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  Quote AlexS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct. 09 at 09:19
Originally posted by sajjadakram

Please quote some references.It is difficult for me to locate.
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I can only quote a Russian translation ...
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  Quote sajjadakram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Oct. 09 at 09:27
Originally posted by AlexS

Originally posted by sajjadakram

Please quote some references.It is difficult for me to locate.
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I can only quote a Russian translation ...
Then withdraw your allegation.I cannot understand Russian.sorry. 
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