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Posted: 22 June 04 at 08:51 |
any thoughts on this complaint.
have started off case with giving low dose carcinocin as 10 years worth of antibiotics have been taken
someone mentioned it being related to the pill??
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Wim Pardaan
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Posted: 22 June 04 at 12:11 |
Hello mother, I think it`s better to give Sulphur after use of antibiotics and Carbo veg. when patient is suffering from severe fatique.After use of Penicillin(e) you give Phosphorus.
Rosacea is a disease which colours the cheeks, and also often the nose, red. I think it has nothing to do with the use of the pill. There are clear indications that this disease belongs to a certain type of man or woman and occurs more often in women. The capillaries in the skin of the face swell up, which gives the face its so-called healthy colour/look. Under the influence of the rosacea thickening of the skin and pustules develop. When selecting a remedy we first of all look at the colour of the Rosacea !
I have to treat a first aid problem(animal) right now, so I will continue this post a.s.a.p.
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Posted: 22 June 04 at 12:48 |
Continuation of Rosacea. (By the way,mother, are you a qualified homeopath ?)
Rosacea is the best name for this disease. Many years ago this disease was wrongly called Acne Rosacea !
I`m sorry to say this, but constitutional treatment for this disease is seldom successful, but is fortunately not always necessary and proper prescribing is usually possible by assessing the symptoms and the modalities. The clinical treatment though also sometimes fails !
The most important remedies are Arnica 12x-30x, Carbo animalis 6x-12x, Nux vomica 12x-30x, Sanguinaria 6x-12x, Sulphur 12x-30x, depending on symptoms/modalities.
If remedies are unsuccessful it`s possible to have a special ointment made by a chemist.
Prescription (Magistral preparation) for 50 grams(grammes) ointment :
40 grams Cremor Lanette and 10 grams Acidum azealicum. This ointment is great !
Apply a thin layer once a day and massage the ointment softly into the skin.
Application of this ointment is harmless and it has no side effects. Habituation won`t occur !
This ointment was invented by a Dutch homeopath who suffered severely by this disease ! He accidentally discovered this ointment when he was making scientific comparisons of medicines.
Rosacea should be treated by a qualified homeopath !
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Posted: 22 June 04 at 12:49 |
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And why oh why the Carcinosin ????? Please explain, mother.
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Posted: 22 June 04 at 14:20 |
Continuation Rosacea
The patient should never use soap to wash his/her face, but only water. This is very important !!!
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Posted: 23 June 04 at 00:30 |
firstly, i am a homeopathic student in london who has taken the case, under supervision.
secondly, i started the case with carcinocin, as having repertorised the case fully, the picture was too clouded by the drug layer to completely be sure of another remedy (others that came up were nat mur, sepia and ignatia, real emotional aetiology).
so hopefully, as well as using sulph/nux vom 6c am and pm for extra clearout, her totality of symptoms will become clearer and further prescription will be successful. (i suspect over quite a period time)
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Posted: 23 June 04 at 00:54 |
Carcinosin can be applied as an intercurrent remedy together with the indicated remedy.
In all cases of chronic illness having a cancerous heredity or the constitutional symptoms of the diathesis ( natural predisposition to a disease) a course of treatment with Carcin. 30c or 200c once a week will be likely to benefit.
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Posted: 07 July 04 at 09:52 |
I was just diagnosed with rosacea yesterday by my family doc. My case is very new, mild, and not much of a problem. I probably would've let it go til it got worse, but I'm a birth doula and didn't want to expose my clients to anything contagious, so I went in right away to find out what it was. My doc prescribed a cream, which I did not fill because I'm still nursing my 14-month-old, and bf is not recommended during use.
I did some online looking today, and found a site where you enter symptoms and it recommends a remedy. The remedy I got was Antimonium Crudum. I know that with an acute or mild symptom I'd want to take a low dose. 6x or 6c. But, after finding this forum, I wanted your opinions. Since my case is new and mild, I'm comfy trying this remedy before going to a homeopath (I honestly don't know if there even is one anywhere near me) but what do you think?
Is it stupid of me to try this before finding a homeopath?
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Posted: 07 July 04 at 12:27 |
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Hallo Selko, I`m afraid this is not the right procedure to find the indicated constitutional remedy you need, so please forget about the Antimonium crudum. You should see a qualified homeopath to treat the Rosacea, but before doing this you could ask your GP/familydoctor for a prescription for the ointment I mentioned above.
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Posted: 07 July 04 at 13:09 |
Acne, This is problem in young. I take it as routine matter. Our President was very concious about his acne before getting married.  I prescribed Asterarubins 30 for one week. He is perfectly all right now and got married. His marriage photo is available in chit chat forum. 
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Posted: 07 July 04 at 13:47 |
Hello Dr. Shahkeel, Are you referring to Rosacea as Acne ? Acne Rosacea is an old fashioned name which should be no longer used for this ailment, but simply Rosacea, which doesn`t necessarily occurs in young people only ! When the Rosacea spreads to and effects the nose we speak of potato nose or strawberry nose (Rhinophyma).
I think the remedy you mean is Asterias rubens, sometimes used for apoplexy with red face, rapid and full pulse etc., or cancer of the mammae etc.
Depending on different symptoms/modalities (colour of the rosacea is leading symptom!!!) remedies applied clinically are :
Arnica 12x or 30x, Carbo animalis 6x or 12x, Nux vomica 12x or 30x, Sanguinaria 6x or 30x.
Since constitutional treatment is not often successful I added the above mentioned ointment too ! Regards, Wim.
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Posted: 07 July 04 at 14:01 |
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For clinical prescribing of Acne (NOT Rosacea), depending on symptoms/modalities, I always choose from about 25 remedies, among which are a few nosodes.
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Posted: 07 July 04 at 14:05 |
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By the way I am a black belt master of judo ! I saw earlier that you were a black belt ninja.
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Posted: 07 July 04 at 14:57 |
Since everything is rather quiet now I elaborate a bit more for students.
Asterias rubens is not the main remedy for Acne in general, but only the main remedy for Acne concerning pimples on the face at the age of puberty. This is mentioned by Rai Bahadur Bishambar Das in one of his books. He also mentions 19 other remedies for acne, depending on other symptoms/modalities. As to Rosacea, this remedy isn`t even mentioned by Murphy in his repertory, neither does Kent !
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Posted: 07 July 04 at 15:08 |
OK I have had experience treati ng both Acne and Rosacea.
I have a long standing Rosacea patient who thank goodness only has the odd single pustular eruption now. I have treated her for 4 years - a complicated case made worse by the fact that she had been self prescribing for her symptoms for the previous 5 years at least , taking up to 8 different Rx a day!!! I have treated her constitutionally for all her symptoms and most of them have gone now. Within this process the skin got a lot worse as we had expected. At its worse Rad Brom calmed the skin down.
Another patient with rosacea was cleared very quickly with a constitutional Rx of Kali iod.
Re Acne - the main Rx I have found successful is Nat Mur!! However at the moment I have an interesting case of a 17 yr old with acne ONLY on his back!! So far I have given him Sulphur afterwhich the acne kept coming and going. I have now gone on to Causticum, so we will see. The constitutional Rx which appears best for him is Verat Alb but it doesn't have acne on the back in the provings but as it happens it has rosacea!!!
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Posted: 07 July 04 at 16:11 |
Hello Ricky, Yes, Natrum mur. is one of the important acne remedies. Symptoms/Modalities usually are greasy skin, at the edge of hairy skin of the head, eyelids and round the eyes. Often patients slightly worries, leading to mental conflicts, gets easily tired and is slim/slender in spite of good appetite. Worse: heat, warm room,mental exertion. Better: open air , cold bath.
For acne on back also consider Lycopodium, lack of selfconfidence, which doesn`t make life easier for him and trying to compensate this by behaving like a kind of dictator towards other people.Dry skin, many liverspots, in summer lots of freckles/sunspots.
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Posted: 07 July 04 at 18:01 |
Hello wim, Actually the purpose of post was to share with members that I have excellent excellent excellent results when ever I tried astrarubins 30 for common acne.  This remedy never fails. That is why I sometime use it blindly over my patients. I don't know what is in it but it works marvously.  Hep sulph when you see pus, Bell when face pops are of red color. For blood purification I use hydrocotyle and echnecia (a very good remedy for hcv). My routine is, if i have no time then I prescribe astra and direct my patient to come after three day.
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Posted: 07 July 04 at 20:55 |
Thanks, Wim. I'm off to find a doc of homeopathy, I guess. I'll call my GP in the morning and ask about a prescription for Carcinosin. (I'm assuming breastfeeding is not contraindicated?)
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Posted: 07 July 04 at 21:26 |
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If this is a GP with no real knowledge of homeopathy, I wouldn't bring it up. Even if he doesn't balk at your using homeopathy, he'll probably have hissy fits when he hears 'Carcinosin'. It's also not a remedy I would self prescribe. If you can e-mail me your city, state and zip code, I would be happy to recommend some homeopaths.
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Posted: 07 July 04 at 23:09 |
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I am glad to note that experienced Homeopaths like Dr Wim
Paarden and Dr Shakeel Sarwar share their experience with
other members of this BB like me who are not qualified but
have been using Homeopathy for many years. I have been
treating many of my friends who are aware that I have a stock of
Homeopathic remedies which I give all who come to me for
assistance, free of charge.
I have always used Arnica 30 to cure the most stubborn cases
of Acne in patients whose faces are pock marked by the
frequent irritation caused by recurring attacks of Acne.
Unfortunately these deep scars do not respond to any
treatment but the Arnica quickly clears up the infection within a
few days. The dose I use is 2 No 30 balls taken 3 times daily
and I usually recommend that the patient takes this remedy for
at least a month after the infection is cleared with a reduced
dosage of 2 balls every night.
I have also used Arnica to cure chronic Chalazions and it has
never failed. The dose that I recommend is 2 balls to be taken 3
times daily till the infection is cleared up, to be followed with a
daily dose of 2 balls for a month after.
I have been taking this remedy nightly for over 8 years when I
first used it to help my Prostate to keep the water works flowing
instead of the Hytrin that was prescribed by my Uro which I was
allergic to. I had an open Prostatectomy in 2002 and stopped
taking my nightly dose and soon discovered that I broke out in
Chalazions which would pass from one eyelid to the other
making the problem chronic, painful and disfiguring with
swollen eyelids. I had them scooped out surgically and started
back on my regular nightly dose of Arnica and ever since then I
have been free of this problem.
Arnica is also reputed to thin the blood and it is possible that
my BP of 120/80 with pulse 65 at my age of 75 years may be
due to this daily dose.
Arnica also promotes deep restful sleep if taken shortly before
turning in for the night and I have also discovered that it
promotes the growth of new hairs on the scalp which are
plainly visible as they stick up above the long hair. I have
treated a few cases of young patients who were losing hair with
success. In this case the dosage is 2 balls taken 3 times daily
for many months with the addition of Vitamin E and Cod Liver
oil capsules taken daily.
I would also like to add the case of how Arnica helped in the
case of a lady 78 years of age who was suffering from recurrent
attacks of Cellulitis for over 2 years often resulting in
hospitalization every few months for the painful lesions on her
legs. She was also a Diabetic and was on a massive dose of
Antibiotics and other drugs to help her condition including
Hypertension. She also suffered from insomnia and would only
sleep fitfully for about 3 hours every night.
I started her on a long course of Arnica 30, dose 2 balls taken
in the morning and 4 balls at night. She reported the day after
starting on this remedy that she was very grateful indeed to me
for giving her this wonderful remedy which eusured continuous
uninterrupted sleep which was denied her for many years.
The Cellulitis has also not bothered her for the last 4 months
and she informed me that she feels very fit and active today.
Her Diabetes is also under control with her usual medication
and her BP is normal.
Arnica is a remedy that is quite safe to be used on a daily basis
as I have done for over 8 years.
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