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QuoteReplyTopic: Canine Lymphoma / Spleen Cancer Case Notes Posted: 18 Jan. 09 at 12:48
27 JUN 08 -- Pit Bull / Lab Mix. 7 Years old. Stage 3-4 Lymphoma w/ massive spleen tumor and enlargement. D.V.M. prognosis of about 4 weeks to live if no oncology. Oncology price of $6k with no promises. If returned, another $6k. Owners (family) called me. Fairly young & vital animal. Good survival & remission potential estimated. One-sided case profile -- likely related to vaccine & Advantage use + Triamcinolone atop underlying miasms. Earlier excess vaccination likely at the animal shelter (where obtained). Determined a strong lymphoma profile in need of nosodes years ago. Application of remedy alone I feared would cause organ congestion, so favored drainage tactics first or concurrent (Cooper Remedy style). Then, remedy application.
Suspected real diagnosis: Malignant Hemangiosarcoma -- multi-tumor, blood, lymph, bleeding danger, heart, pericardium, death in 6-8 weeks, anemia. Focused strategy around prevention of that and all else.
CASE CONFUSORS: Prior use of Advantage -- Imadaclopid 9.1%, broad spectrum insecticide, stomach poison. Triamcinolone -- steroid. Weakening of immune system? Prednisone -- adrenal boost, anti-inflammatory, anti-cancer, symptom offset (slowly, rather than rapidly trimmed out in order to prevent adrenal crash that often arises from dependency).
SYMPTOMS/ PATHOLOGY: Emaciation -- more so with neck and waist/ legs ("Anorexia/ Consumption"). Belly bloat (Spleen). Appetite loss (earlier). Adynamia. General malaise. Abdominal enlargement. Haemorrhagic Anemia presumed. Panting ("Rapid Respiration") -- usually when trying to clear Prednisone out of the system. Dry nose (varied). Chronic allergies (lifelong hayfever, runny nose, skin eczema/ pruritis?). Lymphoma. Stomach cancer (considered). Cancer in general. Cancer pains presumed.
REMEDY CANDIDATES: Arsenicum Album selected as the Chronic Constitutional. Various other remedies considered as part of a Genus approach for possible rotation into as symptoms and pathology would change over time (Nux Vomica, Thuja, Carbo Animalis, etc.) PRESCRIPTION: Opened case with a saliva nosode first. No Arsenicum Album yet (as it would have to be mailed; Case was taken by phone). 12C in 8TBS spring water with 8TBS dilution glass, 1 TSP test dose. Prescribed also the addition of at least a raw beef bone into the diet.
29 JUN 08: Animal doing better on the saliva nosode alone. More perky. Active. Slept better. Nose was wet again. Stomach seemed less swollen. Owners amazed.
30 JUN 08: 1 dry pellet Ars. Alb. 12C in 8TBS succussion jar + 8 TBS diln glass + 1 TSP test dose.
8 JUL 08: Stomach & abdomen good. Eating well. Arsenicum Album given sporadically -- not robotic repeated, but only when owner determined the previous dose to be tapered off, peaked out, and fading out (David Little style). Alternated with the saliva nosode in roughly A.U. Ramakrishnan style. Abdominal swelling shrunk. Nose wet. Unusual panting still a bit present, but so was the Prednisone in the system.
16 JULY 08: Continued saliva nosode & Ars. Alb. "Doing really well". Abdominal bloat fully gone. Neck thicker. Weight gained. Legs still skinny. Muscle returned. Spine protrusion less. More energy. Prednisone cut to 1/2. Remedy & nosode given at about 3 day intervals. No blood nosode tried yet.
4 AUG 08: Doggy good still. Owner gave Ars. about once every 6 days (with plussing/ increased succussion between each dose, and fresh dilution glasses). Saliva nosode in-between. Saliva nosode (broad spectrum) then faded out in power compared to Ars (more rubric lensed). No more changes noted. 12C potencies all through here (Contemplated a move to 13 and 14C, but still ample gentle power to tap down in this medicinal harmonic). Just more succussion power added. Only 4-5 Arsenicum Album 12C doses to date in 4th/5th/6th edition Organon of Medicine form. Single dose, stop, wait, observe trajectory, and then redose style. Raw beef bones still in diet (chewed with raw and rotten flesh, not consumed whole; Probiotic value/ closer to natural wolf diet.) No change in commercial dog food diet.
24 AUG 08: Saliva Nosode Proving or Lymphoma Aggression begins. All was good until the previous Monday. Glands under throat began to swell. Big swelling. Arsenic dose the owner had given. Saliva nosode the owner tried, and then the swelling was observed to fade. Eating and walking activity subsided. Animal lays around more. Ars. Album was given every 6-7 days to here. Owner reports that saliva nosode no longer seemed to "agree with" the dog. Approximately 6 total Ars. Alb doses to here and 7 total saliva nosode doses at 12C potencies, wet. Case transition to Acute Intercurrent strategy with focus on Parotid, Submaxillary and consideration of Thyroid, Bronchial, and glandular swelling in general. Total rubrics possible pointed to maybe Belladonna, but that would have been speculative prescription. Based on all knowns, Rhus Toxicodendron and Arsenicum Album were about equal matches for the acute condition (83% match for both when studying by grid computational methods). Complimentary remedy rotation considered in the pattern of Bell, to Rhus, to Ars, and back again to Bell. Phos considered if diarrhea was present. All in all, favored a strategy of just cutting out the saliva nosode and holding the Arsenicum Album against the glandular swelling complication rather than introducing a new remedy direction. Swelling predicted to subside with time, but suspected also possibly an increase in Lymphoma aggression possible.
29 SEP 08: Glandular swelling subsided as suspected, and so blame leaned in favor of the saliva nosode entering a proving condition. However, with removal of the saliva nosode, the swelling came and went. Glands hard & stony in feel, not fluidic. Animal not eating much for the last 3-4 days; About half normal. Playful, but lethargic. Glandular swelling down. Collar loose again from neck emaciation. Abdomen not bloated, but reported to feel pretty "solid" / hard.
Here, another striking/ unusual symptom of great significance was reported to me which didn't come out in the earlier interview: Odd stool pattern always in 3's. First one out always hard. Then, softer. Then runny. Average poop normal. First one a sign of constipation. Last one as diarrhea. Middle/ average one normal. Points to a daily metabolic cycle out of whack. Digestive disorder still present beneath any improvement, and this was the dog's pattern for most of his life (a chronic, constitutional, striking/ unusual Kentian-like issue of great importance to consider in prescribing). Worse in favor of diarrhea with excitement.
Other recent case changes also considered possible as a zoonotic issue. Whole family was concurrently down during this time with severe flu. Possible passage to dog or dog passage to man (zoonotic).
Suggested some Vitamin C and Oregano added to the dog's diet for now. Adjustment of feeding schedule to more stable, multiple, mini-meals rather than all in one feeding. Ars. Alb. as needed upkept with increasing succussion.
HINDSIGHT NOTE: I was about to step up potency right here, but the owner was in charge of that and busy with business trips. Probably we should have moved upward in potency with the Ars. Alb. right here, but I opted to leave that move for when he returned and to hold at the present 12C redose level until then. Case following should have been more close during this period -- and I should have had them call me on a regular, scheduled basis to prevent this sort of thing. I called a couple times to talk to my cousin in follow-up, and all seemed about the same. I'm not really sure what happened, but, usually, when the case improvement starts to fade out and you enter into a downward trend, the patient or animal owner will start to again doubt homeopathy. The case enters into a kind of apathy and loss of contact. They do not think the new case developments are things we can deal with due to so much Allopathic programming of the public mind, and so, right when you need to apply the homeopathic touch most in case adjustment, the case goes into limbo, explores other options, or is returned to Allopathy. It stems from an overall loss of faith; Patient / owner loss of confidence in your performance or homeopathy now that the first bumps in the road emerge. Even when you warn them this is the normal progression in the unlayering of chronic disease, it happens.
OCTOBER 2008: About 10 days before the animal was put to sleep, it developed odd bruising on the belly, and more bruising. I was not notified. D.V.M. labs confirmed almost no Platelet count. Nose bleeds developed. Animal was miserable. D.V.M. advised the owners to just take the animal home and keep him comfortable. Vet was, however, amazed the animal had lived so long under homeopathy when normally a dog like this is a gonner in about 4 weeks rather than 4 to 5 months extra longevity. Animal perked up a bit. Then weak. Walked with owners much less than normal. About 3 a.m. vomit on his last night. Was found hiding under their bed (unusual behavior). Animal making odd noises by 5 a.m. Loss of balance. Owner decision to put down the dog from there. Family very sad. Didn't want to talk about it. Eventually called me to follow-up on 17 JAN 09. Happy with the homeopathy done overall, but just didn't feel like talking about it for awhile. The addition of a new puppy in the last month seems to have perked them all up. CASE REVIEW: Had I been notified, certainly we could have prescribed against the new symptoms and case developments, and probably extended the animal's life even further. Were we curing its Lymphoma? Only alleviating things and doing a case palliation? Was it worsening in cancer pathology at just a slowed-down rate?
Knowns: Good life extension. Less suffering than you would normally expect from an un-treated dog. Typical improvement to worsening and loss of the "homeopathic euthanasia" cases which I often view as just cases that snowballed beyond our ability to control and often were fixable. Certainly not a pattern of Arsenicum Album proving/ overdose. If anything, probably not strong enough and needing a potency step-up back in September 2008. Absolutely a breakdown in close case management.
Unknowns: Anti-tumor cell efficacy in this case. Spleen swelling from the tumor was removed without question, but no X-ray for follow-up labs were yet done. We were saving that for a couple months later; At about 6 month mark of stable, improvement trend. We had that earlier, but somehow lost it.
All serious case comments based in homeopathic anti-cancer treatment experience appreciated in public or private. Preferably public so we can all learn something from at least the dog's loss. I don't mind criticism at all so long as it isn't mindless and has something to teach that isn't just pulled out of some fornicating forumite's kazoo. I'll go put this in the Student section, too. Treatment of the dog was basically done from a human prescribing perspective. Hind legs = legs; Front paws = hands, etc. I dunno what to prescribe for a tail, however! And it gets a little more tricky with goats, multiple stomachs, different metabolisms, horses, etc.
Well, Dog quack, thank you for posting this here because I think there are a number of issues we can discuss
1) I would like that people spend less time accusing conventional medicine (or other techniques) for the diseases present in the patient: if you say that the lymphoma in this case is due to use of advocate and vaccines then we should see much more cases of lymphoma than we do. This is not saying that these influences don't play a role but just outright accusing them is very unscientific in my opinion and does not help us. It appears to give us (homeopaths) sometimes a reason for not being effective which is very poor in my opinion.
conclusion: all the medicines and vaccines rescue and other history are all parts of the anamnesis but none of these (unless clear proof exists, for instance immediate response after the use of a medicine, or repeated reactions post vaccines etc) should be accused outrightly.
I do believe that repeated vaccines makes it more difficult to treat using homeopathic remedies = it makes it more difficult: up to us to improve ourselves.
The accusation of a few outside influences causing certain diseases in patients goes against the homeopathic principle of individuality: = some will respond, others less, others not. Period.
2) why did you use Arsenicum album????? there is no real reason given, we find nothing out about the remedy in your case write up.
3) In my little opinion, arsenicum album acted as a pure palliative (or suppressive) treatment (in the same way that steroids will do for a short while) by making the patient feel better without obtaining any cure whatsoever (low platelets in September is proof of aggravation, and nobody can be sure that this dog would not have lived till September although I accept that you likely made it feel better for a while, although that not all the elements are present in the case to make a clear judgement on this)
4) the saliva nosode is an interesting approach to drain the system, the problem is that it is isotherapy and there are no clear rules when to give, how long to give, there are just the opinions of people who use it. Again, enlighten us more on this, I am interested.
5)have a read of the cancer cases published in the January e-zine: I think these cases come the closed to what we can call cure through homeopathy. I agree that the approach is difficult and much more demanding that the use of a few polychrests and a few tricks but I think we should seriously think whether that is not the direction homeopathy should take because of the level of individuality that is obtained. In these cases it does not matter how much vaccines or other medicines the patient has had, the remedy is so individual that it will even treat the patient which all its own individual reactions to these 'bad influences'.
I would very much like that this debate will go on for a long time because I think homeopathy will depend on it.
Edward
edward
homeopathy for the patient behind the symptoms.
edward@debeukelaer.fslife.co.uk
Thank you for the extensive reply! I am going to clip & paste your notes and then respond to each so as not to bypass anything.
1) I would like that people spend less time accusing conventional
medicine (or other techniques) for the diseases present in the patient:
if you say that the lymphoma in this case is due to use of advocate and
vaccines then we should see much more cases of lymphoma than we do.
This is not saying that these influences don't play a role but just
outright accusing them is very unscientific in my opinion and does not
help us. It appears to give us (homeopaths) sometimes a reason for not
being effective which is very poor in my opinion.
conclusion: all the medicines and vaccines rescue and other
history are all parts of the anamnesis but none of these (unless clear
proof exists, for instance immediate response after the use of a
medicine, or repeated reactions post vaccines etc) should be accused
outrightly.
I do believe that repeated vaccines makes it more difficult to
treat using homeopathic remedies = it makes it more difficult: up to us
to improve ourselves.
The accusation of a few outside influences causing certain
diseases in patients goes against the homeopathic principle of
individuality: = some will respond, others less, others not. Period.
I presume you didn't like these words of mine:
One-sided case profile -- likely related to vaccine & Advantage use
+ Triamcinolone atop underlying miasms. Earlier excess vaccination
likely at the animal shelter (where obtained). Determined a strong
lymphoma profile in need of nosodes years ago. Application of remedy
alone I feared would cause organ congestion, so favored drainage
tactics first or concurrent (Cooper Remedy style). Then, remedy
application.
CASE CONFUSORS: Prior
use of Advantage -- Imadaclopid 9.1%, broad spectrum insecticide,
stomach poison. Triamcinolone -- steroid. Weakening of immune
system? Prednisone -- adrenal boost, anti-inflammatory, anti-cancer,
symptom offset (slowly, rather than rapidly trimmed out in order to
prevent adrenal crash that often arises from dependency).
Oh, I'm sure we could debate about this point for ages on this thread or a new one, and it's a debate that has been going on ever since Hahnemann. Does allopathic vaccine and drug use cause health problems in patients? Suppressive conditions? Suppression of the symptoms? You leave me somewhat shocked and stumped at how to address this; for I'm terribly hostile to Allopathy. Not the humble allopath, but just the arrogant ones. I've seen convention drugs do very nicely for people. Cardiac surgeons amaze me and have helped the life of family, though prevention would have helped years prior. In my own observations of people and animals over my short life, the healthiest children and animals I have ever seen never had one vaccine or allopathic drug applied to them. The most sickly, crippled, miserably living people I have always seen with the repeated pattern: they keep going to the M.D., getting more medicine, getting more vaccines, and the snowball continues until they're too far gone. As for more detailed scientific observations and data in support of that, I actually could dump to this thread tons of articles from my archive and out there on the web but that would be a lot of time and labor for a moot point, as I see it; And as was Hahnemann's overall attitude regarding Allopathy.
Rather than going down some tangent, I'd rather focus on learning what other strategies homeopaths are using out there which show clear proof of remission for Lymphoma or other tumor forms. How are you doing it? What observations are you making? What have you observed in regard to the treatment of lymphoma or other tumors in going a different course? For me, when I see a dog with a history of routine vaccination, it is just a given to me -- based in personal human and animal observations, and readings, and case taking human life stories in Boenighaussen heavy detail style from birth to present -- that I keep seeing some constitutional core and even the Psora at the time of birth, but, with time and allopathic treatments, the whole symptom set and pathologies shift to a new layer (I can provide some case clips on that if you like).
NOTE: Please don't confuse my defensive objection to your attacks on my case as being snotty, defensive, offended, confrontational, etc. As we've seen with other threads on this forum , this whole text communication thing sucks. Reading on-line makes people grumpy. Body language and smile is lost while this emotocon crap doesn't do it too well. I appreciate the critique the way one appreciates a good game of chess and maybe learning some fun new moves from others. That's what I'm looking for here from you or anyone else. What else should I be reading? Considering? Testing and observing? I will note and consider your point on the excess hatred we often have for Allopathy's vaccine and drugs, but that's asking a lot of us! That's almost like asking us to think a gun in the hand of Charley Manson psycho types doesn't do any harm! We could analyze it to death, but we have a common observation and sense about it as no good.
Here's one human example of IgG rise and fall in relation to things tried:
...In this Multiple Myeloma case, we had Trace Elements Hair Analysis data showing excess Mercury, Arsenic, and other elements in excess. Where from? Vaccines? Too much fish in the diet? Dental fillings? I dunno for sure. What you mentioned about our expecting to see toxins (allopathic vax/ drugs in the argument) impacting a greater number of Lymphoma cases applies here, too. It's a question I pondered on this case. If Mercury and Arsenic are found in dental fillings, and many naturopathic physicians believe that to blame for various ailments, then why doesn't everyone with dental fillings or exposure to the same level of Mercury have a problem? Wouldn't we expect to see more cases of Multiple Myeloma in everyone as a scientific conclusion? It's an important question to ask. In this case, my hunch -- and that's often all we usually have in prescribing -- is that the known Constipation issue (a liver congestion/ weakness issue) was more to blame than anything. More to blame than any vax history; More to blame than any drugging or toxins. Maybe those exposures related to it, but, in my own view and personally knowing the patient all my life -- and considering Chinese Medicine emotional relations to the organs -- anger and the liver related most. We'll never know other than we do know the liver was dysfunctional with no doubts. And, when you detoxed her coupled with naturopathic or homeopathic tricks....she gets better each time. The cancer slows down a bit. The immune response to the cancer is less severe. She's alive today still for an allopathically stated "Stage 3" and "Terminal" case. I don't hold high hopes for her longevity due to her continually trying new things, but you never know. She's tough lady and it's mostly naturopathy tactics that have kept her going this long. That plus she did go for some Bone Marrow Transplant using her own stem cells, and was among the first trials of Velcade (after this treatment window). I find her overall condition to have steadily weakened ever since going that course, however. Like day vs. night. When she held the naturopathic and homeopathic course, she was strong, vital, and, yes, the cancer was still growing very slowly -- closer to Stage 1. When she went back to Allopathy (mixed with naturopathy), her cancer count is holding low and stable (condition suppressed, not cured) and her quality of life has pretty much tanked. Where before I actually looked upon her as curable, I do not see that now. All I see is the ability to palliate the case thanks to further allopathic "help".
Or, in another example, here is a case with Type II Diabetes. I took his whole case from birth to present along with consideration of family miasms, psora, everything I could dig up. (Please note that both these cases are from back when I was first learning about homeopathy -- language, style, and considerations have changed a bit since.)
The graph above I made as a radar chart -- taking into account the patient's report of his suffering (pathology/ pathos) on a scale of 0 to 10 (10 being unbearable). The historical method combined with amplitude of suffering and the total area under the curve (a kind of disease calculus; or Disease Energy) allows me to see very clearly the evolution of symptoms and pathology -- helping to better guess at the constitutional core, and the various changes in symptoms and pathology over time (each that pointed to a new remedy at that time). Here, was a case of some fairly easy to fix conditions in a child that most homeopaths could have cleaned up nicely. However, with age and allopathic tampering and life experiences, the disease picture shifted more strongly to the Mental realm (also with a strong family history of similar mental illness).
The sudden transition away from strong Mental generals to almost no suffering reported (though some was present) reflects also an interesting observation: change of profession! Aerospace engineer/ missile officer (too much Left Brain strain; Over-Thinking from Chinese Medicine perspectives) on Active Duty to happiness among civilian life and pursuit of an artist/ art teacher's profession in which he is exceptionally talented. Then, with time, the Mentals kicked in again. The love of and quality of the art faded. Depression begins again. Very interesting observation in how powerful an impact one's ability to express his soul and create at your prime -- to create and work freely on things that are your bliss -- impacts the mind and physical condition. Anyhow, yes, there was some Allopathic tinkering there. Lots of drugs and vaccines in his life, but mostly the strong Mental issues as the overwhelming case color. Like an anchor always pulling him down since birth; Or like that psoric devil on your back all your life as Kent used to say.
...So, anyhow, not always do I see Allopathic drugs and vax to blame. But, I have repeatedly observed in people and animals -- particularly youth and dogs with cancer at a young age -- just excess vaccination always a common denominator. Excess vaccination more so than even strong allopathic drugs or other interventions. For example, in an interview of a youth with cancer (only in his 20's!), I asked about his life, diet, medical history, etc. What does he tell me? Something like: "Gee, I just can't figure it. Nobody with cancer in the family. I was athletic. Ate really healthy. Never smoked. Never had any medical problems or chronic disease. All my shot sheets were up to date." And so, I ask: "Shot sheets?! What the hell is that? You mean you need a sheet or multiple sheets to record all the vaccines you've had in life?" Yup. I'm thinking: "Holy cow! I can't even find my vax records. They were recorded on some little card -- about 3 x 5" -- to get me into the First Grade. After that, maybe some boosters I don't recall. That's it. I evaded all else. Total vaccines to me? Maybe less than a dozen injections over three decades. This kid? Dozens upon dozens in two decades? No other cancer factors we know about."
Then, I consider the dog cancer cases I've run by. Most of them fairly young for their breed. Usually developed about 3/4 to half the lifespan. What's the pattern I keep seeing with dogs as a dog quack? All the really healthy animals -- the strong ones, the long-lived ones -- they usually belong to poor people or less caring animal owners. Not dog lovers. Not neglecting pet owners, but just a little above neglect. The typical farm dog who is more likely to take a bullet in the head when too sick, I often see living into ripe old age. Cancer hitting at an old age, and they go quickly. But, then there are all these pet lovers. The minute doggy is ill, they go to the vet. They go to the vet for everything. Oodles of vaccinations peddled. Ample drugs given. A little sniffle? "Oh, here take this drug." The animals I bump into with cancer at an age that is about 75% younger than their expected lifespan per breed....they're all usually First World, high class dogs. I even avoid taking cases like that according to this rule of thumb: If the owner is likely to consider spending money on Doggy Yoga or Acupuncture, forget it!
Thus, I focus strictly on the poor farm dogs of the world. They make for more stable case data. The owner doesn't want to spend money on the animal, and so will let you work the case longer before panic and transition to costly Allopathy or seeking out some doggy specialist in Canine Massage Therapy and Wolf Organic Nutrition. If they'll feed that dog a raw steak and raw bones while making a memorial website to the animal when it dies, that's a good client base to soak for money but, statistically, I find that animal has a higher history of Allopathic tampering, vax, drugging, case confusion, often mentally unstable owners themselves, and almost no canine cancer case study reliability in data gathering. They screw up my score sheets and hinder ability to keep control of the case. Short of keeping dogs in a lab under controlled conditions and running a canine hospice out here, the best I can do is focus on the poor farm dog. Even Third World dogs. I am the Mother Teresa for dog homeopathy, okay?
...Anyhow, so I think I've belabored the point now.
Maybe I read you wrong there, though? I'm tired tonight. If you're saying that you'd like to see less blame placed on the allopathic vax & drugs, in this case, it was an observation and presumption based in all previous considerations stated.
Scientifically? No, I have no such data which tells me that insecticide flea killer in anyone's bloodstream and lymph is perfectly harmless and has no relation to cancer, but I bet you a dollar that -- whatever your perspectives be on it -- you wouldn't put that crap in your own system, children, or family in order to prevent some trivial condition that is easily prevented by more frequent bathing, now would you?
To me, it would be akin to saying, "Edward, if I sell you this pill, it'll run through your system. It'll kill annoying bacteria that causes bad breath, gas, odors of various form, smelly armpits. You won't need to bathe as much nor use soap, shampoo, and deodorant as much. You won't attract fleas and flies so much. (No insult intended; Just having fun. ). We'll have so much toxin in your blood and lymph that, when that fly or mosquito nibbles on you...it'll just drop dead! They'll all drop dead and for months!! But, this has no impact upon your long-term health. Don't sweat it. It does not corrupt the blood and lymph (the old timer homeopath / naturopath perspective on the cause of cancer as a corruption of blood & lymph, See: Henry Edward Lahn, M.D. in his book, Iridology, @1914. Many cases there with a naturopath and old-timer homeopath perspective. Far better stuff than these modern Iridology texts.) You can use this stuff on your doggy, too! It does not linger in the system. It does not cause medicine stains we can see and confirm in the iris. Allopathic drugs do not cause staining of the entire iris and most especially around the pupil for every human and animal ever subjected to extensive drugging. Don't worry about it. We can stain your tissues for months on end with this muck, but it has no long-term alterations to the system that you need to consider for anything. That'll be $54.95 for a supply. Thank you. And how about some heart worm pills while you're at it? Oh, them heartworms are everywhere! You gotta have it. And the germs! Them damn germs are all over the place. Always a new one. But, don't worry. We've got ample vaccines and drugs to sell your puppy, and a medical insurance package, too."
...So, anyhow, I don't really know how not to consider things like Advantage as part of the case. Not just a part of the total case, but likely a very strongly one-sided issue, and so nosode attack came to mind. I've used it before. The old-timers used to have good results with Isopathy, and I see no reason why we should be homeopathic snobby in regard to their work. My own findings are that the nosodes are very powerful and broad -- potentially lethal (as we know from historical data with weed and plant killer & insecticides derived from nosodes). They do seem to enter into proving conditions faster per any given patient. Just another tool in the toolbox that doesn't have to be restricted to just one-sided cases or any homeopathic considerations anymore than other clinician tools outside the Materia Medica purist realm.
...It is reported that Burnett viewed nosodes useful against the whole and the local pathology; That Burnett and Clarke used cancer nosodes in their treatment; That Clarke reported a Dr. Doyen in Paris having success with cancer nosodes and autonosodes; Usage of drainage remedies. (Cure of Tumors by Medicne, Clarke, p. 24; The Treatment of Advanced Cancer, Ch.13, The Cancer Diathesis and Miasm, Lesson 3, Hahnemann's Advanced Methods Course, David Little, 2002. See also: The Therapeutics of Cancer, Clarke; General Review of the Homeopathic Treatment of Cancer, L'Homoeopathic, Moderne, Fortier-Bernoville, Feb. 1933). In A Homeopathic Approach to Cancer, Dr. A.U. Ramakrishnan has great success using alternating remedy and various nosode applications.) As for me, all the great masters seem to work various cancer types by so many different styles and approaches, that all I can do is study from their work, see what others (such as yourself might have to add that is potentially useful to consider) and make my own decisions per case.
...If you're saying I could have opted for just a remedy with no nosode and no consideration of toxic factors to the blood and lymph needing drainage? Yes, I could have gone that course, too. Decided not to. Sometimes I focus on the Constitution; Sometimes the most suffering under symptoms and pathology first -- especially in cancer -- while often seeing the constitutional remedy beneath historical layers of case evolution. Some respectable homeopaths tell me to try a first strike at the constitutional core, then to follow-up after breaking things apart. Others teach me that the old-timers with great success against cancer often used a pathology first approach mixed with drainage remedies. Some give the opinion that nosodes should only be used in one-sided cases and then only when the homeopathic remedy fails. Others tell me the old masters often used nosodes first or at any time. So when is right? Or if? I don't think we can know until just doing it and when it calls to us per case. Called to me here, and so I made the decision while introducing it carefully.
2) why did you use Arsenicum album????? there is no real reason
given, we find nothing out about the remedy in your case write up.
SYMPTOMS/ PATHOLOGY: Emaciation -- more so with neck and waist/
legs ("Anorexia/ Consumption"). Belly bloat (Spleen). Appetite loss
(earlier). Adynamia. General malaise. Abdominal enlargement.
Haemorrhagic Anemia presumed. Panting ("Rapid Respiration") -- usually
when trying to clear Prednisone out of the system. Dry nose
(varied). Chronic allergies (lifelong hayfever, runny nose, skin
eczema/ pruritis?). Lymphoma. Stomach cancer (considered). Cancer
in general. Cancer pains presumed.
...I was trying to stay brief. Quickly cranked that post out. Just listed the symptoms above. I could throw up a scan of the grid remedy and candidate remedies gone through by hand (not computer), but my printer is under repair at the moment and won't be scanning for another day or two. If interested, let me know. Quick summary is that all the major considerations (of the notes above) were rubrics in which Ars. Alb. is not just indicated, but strongly indicated in my Materia Medicas. Rubrics that I knew about and also rubrics that I worried about (such as bleeding).
..The Ars. most certainly gave helpful reactions distinguishable from the earlier nosode and so was continued, but, in all honesty, one of the strongest reasons I gave it was in worry of the animal's potential to develop Hemorrhagic Anemia. Treated or untreated that would have likely been the case. Entering into proving under Arsenicum Album, that would also be a possibility, so, in correction of the previous post, that should be honestly stated. Ars. also coincidentally fit all the chronic symptoms of the present and past -- making both a nice constitutional remedy and the present pathology remedy, too. Some cases don't run neatly like that, but often animals do. The totality of the symptoms -- along with the strongest rubrics and pathology of concern; along with consideration of anti-cancer and anti-suffering nature to Ars. in cancer -- all that was part of the selection and maintenance. But, yes, you do have me wondering now if perhaps we didn't enter into proving on the Ars. Difficult to say. I gave the fewest doses possible at this 12C level. Maybe my method is stringing them out per potency level too long? Maybe I should more rapidly step up to 30C and the LM scale in the future? I have been getting a lot of really good results from repetition and succussion adjustments in the low potency range, but perhaps staying there too long -- as I have done at times -- maybe that crosses over into a homeopathic analog of allopathic suppression, and then into proving? Yet a lot more subtle? Sneaks in on you? Hmmm....this is a good discussion. I'm going to need to think about that. Research it. All input from anyone based in experience and reading references appreciated. This clearly gets into the whole high doser/ low doser debate, while I go by Dave Little's style of moving gently upward from low to higher with a test dose. However, I've also been sticking in the 12 C's much longer. Getting a feel for and mapping that level more. At the same time, I know dry doser classical homeopaths who do very well by just 12C robot repetitive methods of the 1st to 4th Organon. It's a very slow, gradual improvement that I personally haven't seen deeply cure cancer, but I have personally seen and felt it cure chronic conditions while also shifting the symptom picture around. Here, where I've lingered in the low potencies with added wet dose power, I think it is very possible that all the good and bad side of low doser posology might be amplified. They are very strong doses I've been giving. Even though 12C wet with ample succussion, the remedy trajectory takes on a longer-acting curve closer to LM's. It's one dose every 6-7 days; Closer to a 30C dry in the average sensitivity case. I've seen arrogant homeopaths prescribe recklessly in the LM's and push a case over the edge with just one extra LM dose, and so I'm wondering if very possibly that didn't go on here. I let the owner repeat doses as he observed the remedy level off and taper down, but possibly it might have been best to stop entirely when we had the start of a downward trend. There, I redosed rather than just stop and wait. In that one dose, yes, maybe I did miss the remedy transition to an Arsenicum Album proving. Or, was it from insufficient dosing and with insufficient potency? I will need to contemplate that one more and think about the case. Would be nicer if we had more lab data on the status of the spleen tumor with the periods of improvement trend.
3) In my little opinion, arsenicum album acted as a pure
palliative (or suppressive) treatment (in the same way that steroids
will do for a short while) by making the patient feel better without
obtaining any cure whatsoever (low platelets in September is proof of
aggravation, and nobody can be sure that this dog would not have lived
till September although I accept that you likely made it feel better
for a while, although that not all the elements are present in the case
to make a clear judgement on this)
...Proof of cancer aggravation? No argument. Proof of Arsenic remedy aggravation? Possible, but not certain. Things to think about.
...Yup, I wish we had done x-ray data on that spleen tumor. Definite reduction of inflammation and abdominal swelling present, so, no, the animal wasn't just palliated or feeling better. Would it have been that way on its own? Maybe. Was it from trim down of the Prednisone? No, because that was trimmed out more gradually while the swelling immediately went away after the nosode, although the use of probiotics and raw beef bone therapy should be noted there. So we cannot really say for sure with any honesty that any homeopathic treatment gave the swelling reduction. All I can tell you is that it wasn't from the Pred backoff. Wasn't from just leaving it be; for it came on rapidly and immediately after the saliva nosode. Actually, come to think of it, the beef bone wasn't added until the second week or so (though I will have to re-check my notes), so, yes, I would state again that spleen and abdominal swelling subsided within 48 hours of the nosode application and continued until the case went haywire and even under the Ars. doses.
4) the saliva nosode is an interesting approach to drain the
system, the problem is that it is isotherapy and there are no clear
rules when to give, how long to give, there are just the opinions of
people who use it. Again, enlighten us more on this, I am interested.
...Noted in previous paragraphs with reading references.
5)have a read of the cancer cases published in the January e-zine:
I think these cases come the closed to what we can call cure through
homeopathy.
Edward, can you please specify which cases you're talking about and where exactly in the E-zine I can find them. I have seen your article, "Exploring the Life & Work of Masi-Elizade" and am still looking through them. Many links there. How do you compare that cure data with A.U. Ramakrishnan's records? I noticed the Masi yardstick seems to be longer. I will read more before continuing to post or reply on this thread, but, if you get here while I'm still reading, please reference the material in specific so I can be sure I found what you're getting at there. If it's curative, I want to read it!
I agree that the approach is difficult and much more
demanding that the use of a few polychrests and a few tricks but I
think we should seriously think whether that is not the direction
homeopathy should take because of the level of individuality that is
obtained. In these cases it does not matter how much vaccines or other
medicines the patient has had, the remedy is so individual that it will
even treat the patient which all its own individual reactions to these
'bad influences'.
....This is a very interesting perspective and style I would like to hear more about.
...For the record, I did not select Arsenic as a polychrest here and usually never even give the polycrest matter much thought. That's not how I think when prescribing for chronic matters. Only time I pull out a poly like Nux is when it fits the Kentian picture with those striking and unusual calls to it for trivial acute things. When in doubt and having to be quick about it, Nux 6X for heartburn or some forms of fever is a good one, indeed! For more serious matters, you need a more accurate approach and remedy. The more individuality and more fitting to the rubrics -- in Boenighaussen completeness style and like constitutional prescribing -- the more we know about the case and can make the best remedy decision. I just find that, as we deeply study a case, they are all so individual -- often so complex and different -- that nobody can ever say, "You should do this and never this for that."
...This approach you get at seems to give all the "bad stuff" a back seat in relation to the case totality, and that's an interesting notion. Highly needed if true. Seems very much closer to pure homeopathy, yes. Can you summarize it more for us here and tell us how you would apply that in a case like this?
I would very much like that this debate will go on for a long time because I think homeopathy will depend on it.
I don't care to debate. Only winds up leading to all this "Poopy on you!!!" kinda of thing. If people with something intelligent and informative have something to say based in experience or learning (rather than quick opinions pulled out of the kazoo), I want to hear it. Don't mind the criticism. It's been a very productive poking at my case here from you. Thanks! Causes me to reconsider the possibility of a rapid entry into proving with the Ars. I have no doubts on the properness of Ars for the case. There may have been a better fitting remedy. I dunno. There's only so much I can question a dog through questioning his owners! But, presuming a good fit, your question of why I selected Ars. in the first place has pointed me back to why I did: Prevention of bleeding and anemia which were observed in his last hours. Yes, very possible, I had him going well and should have stopped -- rather than let them keep dosing -- at that downward trend. Could have stopped and waited, and watched a bit more. Maybe walked down that damn Allopathic road again while trying my best not to -- and maybe from dealing with powerful wet doses in low potency (Which is an argument I've been making for a long time now; That low doses in wet form are not at all lacking in curative power.) Where you read me giving 12C wet, you can pretty much consider that like a low-amplitude LM 0/1. Maybe I should sweep more quickly up to LM 0/1?
You know, this whole thing of working at the cancer with 12C low while everyone else is often using LM's, 200C, and M has been bothersome to me in exploration. I have tried to map anti-cancer applications down here in 12C to 30C -- prior to crossing over into LM 0/1 -- in order to more fully feel what you can do down here. It's a broader coverage of the rubrics; Closer to nosodes, actually. Then, the potencies are said to become more lensed and laser-like with the rubrics as you go upward in potency. Not good to just jump into high potency, I think. I prefer to start low and work upward gently, but lingering too long in low is probably not good, either. Often, I have wondered if you'd do better by sweeping more rapidly upward to the higher potencies as needed, and then cycling back from low to high as needed.
Yup, very possibly posology slipped away from me on this one with just one extra dose because I have been thinking of 12C wet as a fairly weak dose when, as I argue, it's actually very strong once you dilute and succuss along a different wet dose path. When you examine the succussion to dilution ratio -- which has been changing with each new dose here -- by the time we were at that level-out and entry into proving -- this was actually an incredibly strong remedy that rivals anything on the C, M, and LM scales. I've been operating by the latter, wet methods of Hahnemann in 5th to 6th Organon which we know to speed the cure by about a factor of 4. I've seen my transition to wet dosing in that style speed cure and gently work wonders well beyond dry dosing, but, yes, here it may very well have GENTLY snuck into proving while my eyes were closed to that. I've seen a very bad and arrogant homeopath do that to patients with excess and reckless use of the LM's. Operating in untread waters here, maybe I did that. Not sure. I want to run through the succussion to dilution ratios per dose and table compare that to the LM scale.
Who knows. This poor doggy may very well have caused me to now alter my posology for chronic disease! The issue needs further study. Thanks Edward! Anyone else have interesting comments to add? I notice that cancer is such a strong pull of illness that you find people treating it mostly with higher potencies, but the weak and end stages also require a gentle upward motion from the low -- all that bridged with wet styles. If my hunch as to what went on is true, then the more effective path would be in going upward in potency with fewer dose repetitions....and that would run closer to Minimum Dose rule. In trying to do the Minimum Dose strongly in low, yes, maybe I rapidly and subtly crossed into way too much.
All discussion will be in good spirit here Dogquack, the purpose is to ask quesrtions look for answers and then progress. I have no set opinions on things there are just so many things said in the world of homeopathy I am not 100% sure off.
One of the main tension points in my opinion is the difficulty of many to keep the philosophy of homeopathy different from the philosophy of conventional medicine. I explain: In homeopathy the patient 'speaks' and the homeopath has to find out what symptoms need to be used to select the most appropriate treatment; so the challenge is to find what we need to select in the patient to come up with the most approprate prescription. Sometimes we get there from the first shot, often we don't and several px follow each other giving some relief until we finally get to the right remedy (or never get there). See some of the new schools and the work of masi who go in this direction.(2nd tool you need is obviously a rule on how to assess the improvenet of the patient: Hering etc)
Conventional (modern scientific) medicine works on the basis that we have to understand the disease and then only can determine the treatment. Whate does the practitioner do? He/she has a reasoned approach to what medicne/remedy is used; there is an explanation why you use such and such medicine.
I see much of homeopthy making a balancing (= is in the progress of finding a balance but maybe not achieved it) act between the two, I am not sure this is possible and or this is a good thing, although it appears to work for some.
That is where my 1st remark comes from: when you start to reason that the cause of such and such problem is vaccines or whatever, you are practicing conventional medicine (even if you use homeopathic remedies); you are using a conventional thought process. Often following this people are then drawn into reasoning the right homeopathic approach based of the same reasoning process (that is how our culture and education works so it is difficult not to do it, we are brought up in rationale science). I am worried that this then stops people from going back to homepathic thinking and be able to say: OK that is maybe what science sais and it is likely right from a scientific pov but to treat the patient I have to listen what the patient 'says' and nothing else: I have to use the patient's way of thinking and find what is not logic there to find the appropriate remedy.
So it is very much a philosophic point where I am standing: how do we keep the two approaches to medicine separate, is it neccesary to keep these two seperate. I am convinced that if we don't keep the two separate homeopathy will suffer
so you are welome to have a scientific debate about how drugs and vaccines affect a patient but when you go to the prescription side, I think the only valable homeopathic remark you can make is to say that due to long term supressive treatment the case will only respond to very precisely selected remedy(s).
Of course there is a big cultural issue here: in the uk/europe there is much less vaccinating and medicine taking going on as in the States. The pressure of some of the unwelcome sides of modern medicine is much higher on your side of the Atlantic.
On the scientific debate, as you question it so well in relation to the few people that suffer from mercury and not the others (in relation to multiple melanoma), the internet is too much a vehicle for one of experiences that are generalised to everybody. It is sometimes about percieved risk. i will not go further into this debate because it is not related to homeopathy per se.
The cases to read are the ones published in the e-zine of january. There are at least four cases of cancer in people. They are based on the ideas of Masi.
On the choise of Ars alb, we could argue for ever but there is no point, thanks for giving more indications for your choice (the one thing I would like to say is that the materia medica does not (and never) contain indications of (for) a remedy: this is a common and tragic mistake too often made by many. The materia medica contains the symptoms obtained through provings and poisonings which help the homeopath to 'learn' the remedy to understand what patient may benefit from what remedy.)
In a theoretical discussion one can never say what would have been a better treatment but it always is a interesting to discuss the mechanisms and principles of approach of a case.
Warm regards,
Edward
edward
homeopathy for the patient behind the symptoms.
edward@debeukelaer.fslife.co.uk
Thank you for the detailed reply. I see your points more clearly now and have really nothing to add at this time other than that I will be spending some time reading more from Masi. Seems to me you are trying to find the most pure, classical homeopathic approach and I have nothing to argue there.
On the below item, I do have a question that perhaps you or others out there can answer. I have asked it before and am not content with the answers. It bothers me. It bothers me about some of the way I see homeopathy practiced around the world. Bothers me with a lot of what I read on this forum and elsewhere. I have not attacked at it, but it just bothers me and I'm not sure what to do with it yet, frankly. Let me explain:
Originally posted by edebeukelaer
On the choise of Ars alb, we could argue for ever but there is no point, thanks for giving more indications for your choice (the one thing I would like to say is that the materia medica does not (and never) contain indications of (for) a remedy: this is a common and tragic mistake too often made by many. The materia medica contains the symptoms obtained through provings and poisonings which help the homeopath to 'learn' the remedy to understand what patient may benefit from what remedy.)
... Perhaps the disagreement on "indication" is in my choice of words? I tend to focus more on the "indications" of a remedy which run closer to clear cut and less "voodoo-sounding" / horoscope sort of prescribing. For example, for Ars: "A profoundly acting remedy on every organ and tissue"; "Restlessness"; "Great exhaustion after the slightest exertion". All in italics in my book to convey a strong "indication" -- or a strong reporting of this "rubric" noted in provings for the remedy. Right?
I understand what you're saying about learning what a patient may benefit from the remedy rather than what the Materia Medica "indicates" for it. That was lost in my language to perhaps imply that I accept every "indicated" notation the MM makes which I never do. Never do because half of it always sounds like voodoo jive, frankly! Then I see homeopaths prescribing constitutionally like that and it baffles me. "Oh you're a Sulphur case! You're a Nux!" Like hell I am. What the hell do they know about me from a couple office visits?! I cannot make such sweeping analysis of a person in one or any visits, and that neglects factors of change. They don't even do a complete case intake, and yet they think they can sum up a man's life -- in horoscope, simplified form -- to basically say, "Yup, you're a Taurus. You need Nux." Whatever kind of homeopathy you want to call it, I don't like it. "An Arsenic person is this or that. They do this or that. X remedy is a person like this. Y remedy is a person like that." Might as well read a daily horoscope, do a natal chart, and pick a remedy for people. Then, we get angry when they call us quacks!
The whole thing is very bothersome if we take sort of a biblical sticky-pooh approach to the Materia Medica and get goofy with constitutional prescribing, so I tend to pay close attention to reported strong "indications" from the remedies.
The other reason I do that is because, heresy as it may be, I really don't trust all these ancient "provings" and their supposed scientific analysis. I wasn't there. I cannot see all the records. I have no way of determining if the weaker "indications" are valid, but it's a good guess the more common denominator "indications" you can gamble upon. Thus, Ars. being useful for restlessness -- strongly "indicated" for restlessness -- I know I can count upon much more so for most cases rather than trusting it for some lesser reported rubric like "Thinks it useless to take medicine. Suicidal. Despair drives him from place to place." How do I know some flake college kid and medical student wasn't part of that data gathering for the less common "indications"?
And here's what bothers me which I'm hoping someone can answer. Often, I wonder if it's not some washed over, dirty secret to homeopathy. We're all so big on provings. We quote from the provings and work from the Materia Medica. We claim our way is scientific, and yet most of us have never personally examined each proving case. We tell people our way derives from the poisoning archives and experiments carried out by doctors and their medical students. So, you're telling me that a doctor and medical student took enough homeopathic arsenic in proving long ago to induce cancer in themselves and explore all these wild symptoms of the Materia Medica? No, I don't think so. Something's missing there. Something's bogus. Granted, I'm sure there was plenty of Materia Medica data on the toxicology of Ars. in the olden days. Fine. But, as the allopaths are, I am just often bothered by all this desire to "learn the nature of a remedy", etc.
I understand every remedy has a nature and signature, but the whole thing often becomes a kind of constitutional prescribing effort to make people into simple categories of Taurus, Pisces, Virgo, etc. Homeopaths will often say there is only one remedy that must be prescribed for a patient, and it is Remedy X if you are that Virgo. Never mind all else. A deep study and case intake reveals that you're a Virgo. My Aura feels that to your Aura. Yup, you're a Virgo! Here, take this constitutional remedy. Never mind any immediate pathology and outer layer symptoms. You are a Virgo. Virgo! Virgo! Virgo! Because you are a Virgo, your personality is like this. You do this. You like this. You don't like this. You will behave as such under these conditions. And, basically, the whole thing just reads to me like more Occult drivel I have seen before.
You cannot sum up a man -- at any given time in life -- into the trivial confines of a page of Materia Medica text. Makes no sense. Just like you cannot divide all the 6 billion people in the world up into 12 to 13 Zodiac descriptions, you cannot divide those billions into a few thousand personality and physical categories. So, no, we cannot depend upon "indications" of the Materia Medica. I don't know about "learning the remedy" to see if it will fit the patient, but I think it's mostly "learning the patient" to see what remedy best fits them. At least that fits a more allopathic understanding I am comfortable with while all the quasi-Zodiac things I am not.
NOTE: Please don't take that to think I'm saying what you're saying is astrologic voodoo. I'm making a tangent point and asking a question. Maybe starting a fight. I dunno. But, how are you all dealing with these issues? I observe and know in myself that yes there are SOME aspects of being born in the right time that make a Taurus a Taurus. Not all of astrology is goofy, but the bulk of how it has been twisted in modern times to horoscopes and voodoo...that's not for me. I do sense and feel that, yes, some remedies have a personality and life of their own which nicely match certain people, body types, constitutions, mentalities, conditions, and all that....but one can get too carried away with that.
Often, I think modern homeopathy -- the kind made popular since about the 1970's to 1980's or so -- has often taken this direction while also mixing with naturopathic/ allopathic corruption (willy nilly non-classical prescribing) and led us down a road that is very far deviant from the way some of the old masters used to practice. That of treating the pathology often first and hitting the constitutional second...often in cases like cancer; That of Hahnemann using more than one remedy during his latter days notes -- tending to treat the suffering presented at the time, not some perception on this or that written in stone by the homeopath or his learning of remedies. In most of Dr. Ramakrishan's approach to cancer, the bulk is based in that style of treating the conditions presented at the time. Some constitutional is present.
I find myself both open to and hostile at times toward constitutional talk. Open and hostile at times to various prescribing styles of the old-timers and modern teachers of homeopathy. So, I look for what makes sense to me; What I can verify to their case histories and reports. In the Materia Medica, I tend to focus on the specific rubrics that apply rather than learning the whole for exactly that same cringing factor when it starts to sound like voodoo and quasi-astrology. At the same time, other homeopaths I respect encourage me to study these realms deeper, and so I do. And so I'm curious to see what Masi and others have to say about it.
I'd like to know how you, Edward, deal with these questions regarding Materia Medica provings? How do you answer patients and students when it comes to explaining how all these "indications" were written in the book; for I honestly cannot. Often, I wonder if the old-timers didn't just scribble the less common "indications" in the books to mess with all of us! Surely, you cannot subject medical students to such wild proving developments or there would have been no homeopaths of the olden days! Something specific, something sensible, something frankly allopathic.....that in the Materia Medica as an "indication" is far easier for me to trust in that all this other stuff and especially the whole ...or at least the whole signature of a remedy that is often professed by others. There's basically a level of scientific trust I can place in the Materia Medica and then a realm of doubt that I have. In order to deal with that, my eyes tend to zoom in on those strongly indicated -- or rather "more frequently verified CLINICAL remedy" conditions (Boericke, 1927). Whatever we wish to call it, in the italics I tend to trust most.
At the moment, I don't have any other way that has proven itself to me clinically that I trust in enough to adopt but I am always interested in discovering those new things that help erase these various, bothersome issues I have with our craft.
Going back to your quote there -- and I mean not hostile or confrontational tone here -- can you clarify that further? I'm missing what you're getting at in regard to tragic. However you're doing it there, what's different about how you look at the remedies in the Materia Medica than what I'm describing in regard to strong "indications"? You speak of "learning" the remedy. That implies to me a kind of definite signature to the remedy which we know sensible. As I look at them, they're more like keys needing match with the locks that are people; Or frequency spectra awaiting interference with the patient's spectra. You can summarize spectra, certainly. You can give them colors and summations of colors. You can look at them in different octaves over the whole range. And every individual will respond differently to the particular teeth on that key. Where I kind of object to all this talk of remedies having a "guiding nature", etc....is that that would depend upon the patient's receptivity to it; That such guiding nature can be found in other patterns among the remedies; That it changes with potency and scale or even repetition of a remedy; That it is like the frequency signature of a voice to each remedy. There is a distinct sound to every voice, yes, and only the human mind calculates that at a macroscopic level where it takes extensive computational analysis to do the same. If you mean "learning" a remedy like that, it doesn't bother me and fits with spectra perspectives, but, like you with a beef about attacks on allopathic drugs, the whole Virgo Remedy Factor bothers me, too.
So how do you deal with questions like that, Edward? I haven't yet resolved them.
Thank you,
Dog Quack. I like this new name, by the way. Think I'll keep it!
Presented by Richard H. Pitcairn, D.V.M., Ph.D., at Minneapolis,
1993.
What we are going to do, in this presentation, is look at the question
of vaccinations in four aspects. First, I want to tell you how my clinical
experience led me to understand that vaccination was important, in a causative
sense, in many of my cases. Second, we will look at the homeopathic perspective
on chronic vaccine disease, or vaccinosis. Third, I wish to present some ideas
on how vaccinosis may manifest in the dog and cat. Fourth, we will consider the
question of the efficacy of vaccinations — do they really do what they
are purported to do? We are looking at this question, also, from my
perspective as a practitioner of homeopathic medicine, not from the allopathic
model that assumes vaccines to be useful and safe with occasional aberrations.
Most of us are aware that vaccine-caused diseases — such as immune disorders,
bleeding problems, tumor formation — are recently receiving attention from the
allopathic community. However, the premise that these are exceptions to a
basically safe procedure is not the same viewpoint as that which I am presenting
to you today.
Introduction
My understanding of the importance of vaccination in animal
diseases gradually developed over several years. I began homeopathic practice
without considering vaccination as a factor of special importance. So, what I
did was to consider the totality of symptoms in the case and choose the remedy
which seemed to be the similimum based on that picture. This is classical
homeopathic procedure and, ordinarily, one which would be effective. However,
there were a significant number of cases that would not react curatively. Though
there was improvement in some respects, nonetheless, a cure was not forthcoming.
Eventually, through following the case over a period of time, the image of the
remedy Thuya would emerge — which when administered would resolve the case which
had been so difficult. What, then, is the significance of Thuya as a remedy?
Thuya is the most important remedy to be used for that state induced by
vaccination. Other remedies noted to have this correspondence are Sulphur,
Mezereum, Malandrinum, Sarsaparilla, Carcinosin, and Silicea among others.
Malandrinum and Carcinosin are interesting remedies because both are nosodes —
the former from horses with “grease heel” and the latter from a cancerous
discharge from a human being. Thuya, Mezereum, and Sarsaparilla are vegetable
remedies — Thuya from the Arbor vitae tree, Mezereum is known as Spurge olive,
and Sarsaparilla an herbal medicine. Sulphur, the element and Silicea, which is
silicon dioxide or quartz are mineral remedies. Thus we have representations
from all the major remedy classes. It gradually dawned on me that the
underlying problem in some of my difficult cases was a state of illness that had
been induced by vaccination. So, rather than simply use a totality of symptoms
to choose my prescription, I found it more effective to emphasize the rubric
“Vaccination, effects of” almost to the exclusion of other remedies. In this
way, I was able to make progress in some very frustrating clinical
situations. Let me give you a few recent cases that demonstrate the
usefulness of Thuya. Case 1: Jack: (Stanford) ten month old DSH, male
cat. Ill since first obtained as a stray kitten about 12 weeks old. Symptoms
primarily fever, diarrhea and vomiting. Associated symptoms were red gums,
retained baby teeth, offensive breath, thirst, swollen cervical lymph nodes,
craving for strange foods (cinnamon rolls, persimmons), blood at end of penis,
licking genitals, dragging bottom on floor, and very strong-smelling urine. When
neutered at age seven months, he developed fever, fear of noise, trembling, warm
head, dilated pupils, pale gums with red line along the teeth, loss of appetite,
craving for plastic, cardboard boxes and house plants, extraordinary hysterical
fear on being allowed outside, dry stools with constipation, prolapsed third
eyelids, crying in pain before passing a fluid stool, and vomiting any water
drunk. Several homeopathic remedies were given during this illness with
sometimes definite improvement, almost to normal. However, the condition always
recurred and the previous remedy would then not be effective. Based on the
symptoms of chronic diarrhea of offensive stools, with lots of gas causing
sputtering sounding stool, and crying in pain before urinating — this cat was
given Thuya 30C. Client reported almost immediate improvement with return to
“97% himself” within a few hours. He has continued to be free of most of these
symptoms since this one treatment with Thuya. Case 2: Jerri,
(Hall) 3 and 1/2 year old mixed chow dog. Afflicted with sarcoptic mange and
recurrent ear infections for 2 and 1/2 years. Treated allopathically without
resolution of the problem (Mitaban and Paramine dips, immune system stimulants,
bacterial extracts, etc.). Skin condition characterized by itching, hair loss,
thickened dark skin, red irritated skin involving primarily the feet, lower
legs, around the eyes, abdomen, top of the head, inside both ears. Patient has
also become timid & cautious with the other dogs. Condition markedly
ameliorated by a dose of Thuya 1M with regrowth of hair, normalization of
appearance of the skin, reduction of ear inflammation, and return of normal
personality and behavior. Condition recurred, in milder form, one year later
(after use of homeopathic nosodes for disease protection) and was resolved by
one dose of Thuya 10M. Case 3: Monster, (Hilliard) 7 year old DSH,
tiger stripe. Chronic diarrhea for 1 and 1/2 years with 1-3 bowel movements a
day. Very offensive diarrhea with a lot of gas being passed. Thuya 200C, one
dose, resulted in marked improvement, with a perfectly formed stool within three
weeks. Case 4: Mei-Ling: (Coffin)six months old, female charpei dog
imported to Brazil from Kansas. Never well since first obtained, now is
diagnosed with a seborrhea (biopsy) and skin fungal infection. The skin is dark,
itchy, with red, scaly spots. These lesions spread rapidly over most of the
body. Client says the puppy was normal until receiving “puppy shots”. She began
to lose hair all over, especially from flanks and front legs and on the back
near the tail. Treated with oral anti-fungal drug and two ointments without
improvement. No effect from treatment with Sulfur 6X; temporary improvement with
Rhus toxicodendron 200; rapid recovery after Thuya 200. Change for the better
was very rapid with hair growing in faster than ever seen before with this dog.
Another dose of Thuya 200 needed three months later, after exposure to plaster
and chemicals used in refinishing a room. Other remedies were needed, months
later, for some lingering minor symptoms, but Thuya clearly turned this case
around. You can see from these cases that progress was dependent on use of
Thuya, the anti-vaccine remedy. Though this was not necessarily the final remedy
for these patients, it seemed to be a necessary prescription. It is as if
vaccinations have the ability to block response to a constitutional remedy, an
obstacle that must be dealt with before cure can be underway.
Homeopathic Discovery of Vaccinosis
Of course, this “discovery”, which
was actually more the re-invention of the wheel, prompted me to search the
homeopathic literature for information about the relation of vaccination to
disease. The most important source on this phenomenon is the book Vaccinosis
and Its Cure by Thuja with Remarks on Homeoprophylaxis by J. Compton
Burnett, M.D. The first edition of this book appeared in London in March
1884. It is here that vaccination is first clearly described as a chronic
disease. The effect of vaccination, besides the physical effects of stimulating
an antibody response, is to establish a chronic disease — one that is
long-lasting, indeed, in some cases a life-long, condition. Burnett refers to
the chronic disease that results from vaccination by the name Vaccinosis.
So, we will adhere, in this discussion, to the same convention. Vaccinosis is to
be understood as the disturbance of the vital force by vaccination that results
in mental, emotional, and physical changes that can, in some cases, be a
permanent condition. Burnett gives several cases that demonstrate this.
Several of them are in infants and children, showing the profound effects of
vaccination on the growing organism. However, I wish to emphasize the
long-standing effects of vaccination so will mention a couple of example cases
to you. Case 1: A woman, of about age 50, suffered greatly for 20
years from a condition of terrible pain in the eyes. The attacks of pain were so
severe, that she would be confined to bed for days at a time and for some
periods as long as six weeks. In spite of many examinations and treatments by
allopathic doctors, no relief was forthcoming. The patient was confined to a
darkened room, her head bound, and crying from the pain. These attacks were
always preceded by what seemed to be “flu” and the frequency of these episodes
was such that she was confined to her room about half of every year. As this
patient had been extensively vaccinated, the use of Thuya as a remedy was used
by Burnett. Thuya, has a type of cephalgia similar to that described by the
patient and, indeed, use of Thuya 30C successfully resolved the condition in six
weeks. A follow-up in one year showed that the cure held. Case 2: A
young woman, 19 years of age, suffered from severe headaches for nine years. The
attacks were characterized by a pain in the back of the head as if it were being
squeezed in a vice with throbbing of the head as if it would burst. These
attacks occurred once or twice a week. Associated symptoms were habitual
constipation, poor appetite, a tendency towards styes, eruption of boils, cold
feet, easily made motion-sick, tendency to faint, skin sensitive to wind which
become rough with cracks forming in the lips. The patient had been vaccinated
against smallpox at three months of age, seven years of age, and again at
fourteen years. In spite of this vaccination, she had actually come down with
smallpox at age 10! She was treated with Thuya, in low potency, over a
period of several months and was eventually cured of her symptoms. A two year
follow-up confirmed the stability of the cure. Many other cases are described
in Burnett’s little book. Lest you think that only head pain is the outcome of
vaccinosis, let me hasten to give brief descriptions of some of the others.
Wasting away (marasmus) of an infant being nursed by a recently vaccinated
mother.
Several cases of skin eruptions, pimples, ringworm.
Enlarged cervical lymphatic glands and unhealthy lungs tending towards
tuberculosis.
Loss of hair, in patches, on the face of men.
Unusual susceptibility to influenza and general ill-health.
Facial acne and nasal dermatitis.
Diseased finger-nails.
Chronic vertigo.
Paralysis and muscular weakness.
Very painful spine, with weakness, inflammation, twitchings, etc.
Hand cramps and enlargement of the spleen.
Insufficient growth in children with paralysis on one-half of the face.
These cases and others, in subsequent books, began to present to the
homeopathic community the nature of vaccinosis. Indeed, it was possible, from
these cases for Burnett to declare vaccinosis a variant of the sycosis miasm. As
you will already know, sycosis is characterized by affections of the skin, the
lymphatics, the immune system, susceptibility to fungal infections,
susceptibility to cold, damp weather, arthritis, affections of the blood, and
many other symptoms of this sort. Most importantly, it is typical of the sycotic
miasm, and therefore of vaccinosis, to develop growths of all types — cysts,
polyps, warts, tumors and cancers. Some of Burnett’s other books, especially
Tumors of the Breast and their Treatment and Cure by Medicines, Curability of
Tumors by Medicines, and Delicate, Backward, Puny and Stunted Children
especially bring out some of the variety inherent in vaccinosis and the
tremendous damage it can do once established. One more thing I will mention
before leaving the subject of Burnett’s work. This is his interesting
observation that the person that is most susceptible to contracting the disease
being vaccinated against is more likely to die when they do come in contact with
it. In other words, rather than protecting some individuals as planned, it
actually makes them more susceptible. The vaccination having created a chronic
disease ahead of time, can predispose the patient to a more serious natural
illness which combines with the established vaccinosis. As we shall see later in
this presentation, there is evidence that this is what has happened in
vaccinated populations. Does this extend our understanding of vaccinosis? We
can expand our definition to say that vaccinosis is the establishment of,
instead of the acute natural disease, a chronic condition which now has the time
to develop a multitude of manifestations not ordinarily seen. Another way of
saying this is that the process of laboratory modification of a viral disease to
make a vaccination strain is the conversion of the disease from acute to
chronic. The virus has been changed so that its natural tendency to arouse a
strong response it gone. Instead it can be introduced into the body in a form
that does not elicit much of a reaction. The result is the establishment
of a chronic disease that has never been seen before in clinical practice. To
illustrate what I mean by this, I would like to briefly discuss aspects of three
of these vaccine diseases — chronic canine distemper, chronic rabies, and
chronic feline panleukopenia.
Chronic Canine Distemper
Canine distemper, a very old disease of
dogs, is well known in its clinical manifestation. According to The
Infectious Diseases of Domestic Animals,[1]the major symptoms
are:
Watery discharge from eyes and nose.
Conjunctivitis, with discharge (eventually purulent).
Vomiting and diarrhea, loss of appetite.
Watery feces, mixed with mucous, offensive and often bloody feces; intense
malaise, loss of weight, and death.
Severe, fetid diarrhea.
Spasms, fits, epileptiform seizures.
Paralysis.
Eruption around the mouth where hair meets the naked skin of the lips.
Swelling of the feet, red footpads.
Pneumonia.
Eruptions on the skin of pustules, on the abdomen, inside the thighs, and
elsewhere.
Emaciation.
What I am suggesting to you is that, because of
repeated vaccination, the acute disease of canine distemper has changed form to
appear as a variety of chronic diseases. In the table below, the acute form of
the disease (on the left) has become the chronic (or new acute) disease on the
right:
Watery feces, mixed with mucous, offensive and often
bloody feces; intense malaise, loss of weight, and death. Severe, fetid
diarrhea.
Parvovirus. Recurrent diarrhea. Sensitivity to
foods with resultant diarrhea.
Spasms, fits, epileptiform
seizures. Paralysis.
Epilepsy; rear leg
paralysis. Spondylitis.
Eruption around the mouth where hair meets the naked
skin of the lips.
Lip fold dermatitis. Allergies.
Swelling of the feet, red footpads.
Habit of licking the feet; eruptions between the toes,
inflammation and swelling of the toes & bottoms of the feet; interdigital
dermatitis. Allergies.
Pneumonia.
Kennel cough. Chronic bronchitis.
Eruptions on the skin of pustules — on the abdomen,
inside the thighs, and elsewhere.
Chronic skin eruptions involving abdomen, inside
thighs, and generally lower half of the body. Allergies.
Emaciation.
Failure to thrive; abnormally thin
condition.
What I am suggesting here is that the
original disease, Distemper, has been, for the most part, replaced by Distemper
Vaccinosis, a chronic disease of great variety. This chronic disease also
creates a susceptibility to new acute forms of distemper like parvovirus.
Because by its nature, chronic disease is more developed than an acute disease,
the many ramifications of this condition have been given new names from the
mistaken idea that they are different and distinct diseases.
Chronic Rabies
Let’s now consider Rabies in the same way. Some of
the symptoms of rabies are known to be (similar for dogs and cats)[2],[3]:
Restlessness, uneasiness, apprehensiveness and a developing viciousness.
This is most apt to be manifested toward strangers.
Dogs normally affectionate may hide away and shun company.
Dogs normally independent may become unusually attentive and affectionate
(an expression of anxiety).
Desire to travel away from home for long distances.
If restrained, it will chew viciously on metal chains or anything that is
used to restrain or confine it.
The dog may inflict severe bite wounds on itself.
Strange cries and hoarse howls (partial paralysis of the vocal cords).
No interest in food.
Unable to swallow because of paralysis of muscles of deglutition.
Eyes staring with dilation of the pupils.
Unable to close the eyes; cornea becomes dry and dull.
Hanging down of the lower jaw.
Swallows pieces of wood, stones, its own fecal material and other foreign
bodies.
Destruction of blankets, towels, clothing.
Convulsive seizures.
Muscular incoordination.
Agonizing pain and constriction in the throat; spasms of the throat.
Increased sexual desire; satyriasis, nymphomania; attempted rape.
Inflammation of the heart muscle; disturbed heart function, irregular
rhythm, heart rate too slow or too fast; heart failure.
Periods of excitement and jerky breathing; cluster breathing.
Now
let’s consider how this acute disease has, through vaccination, become a variety
of “new” ailments:
Restlessness, uneasiness, apprehensiveness and a
developing viciousness. This is most apt to be manifested toward
strangers.
Restless nature; suspicious of others, unfriendly to
other dogs, vicious to other animals, desire to kill. Aggression and mistrust
of strangers, esp. people in uniforms.
Dogs normally affectionate may hide away and shun
company.
Change of behavior to aloofness; from affectionate to
unaffectionate.
Dogs normally independent may become unusually
attentive and affectionate.
Clingy behavior, fear to be left alone. Follows
owner from room to room. Wants physical contact.
Desire to travel away from home for long
distances.
Tendency to escape confinement and to
roam.
If restrained, it will chew viciously on metal chains
or anything that is used to restrain or confine it.
Attempt at restraint results in hysterical, violent
behavior. Resistance can be so extreme as to cause self-injury.
The dog may inflict severe bite wounds on
itself.
Self-mutilation; tail-chewing, chewing off toes or a
foot (seen in severe allergic or nervous diseases).
Strange cries and hoarse howls (partial paralysis of
the vocal cords).
Changed voice; hoarseness. Excessive tendency to
bark or be vocal.
No interest in food.
Chronic poor appetite; very particular about food;
finicky.
Unable to swallow because of paralysis of muscles of
deglutition. Hanging down of the lower jaw.
Paralysis (or partial paralysis) of mouth, tongue or
throat; sloppy eaters or drinkers; tendency to drool or lose
saliva.
Eyes staring with dilation of the pupils.
Loss of sight, cataract formation, visual
defects.
Unable to close the eyes; cornea becomes dry and
dull.
Keratitis sicca, “dry eye”.
Swallows pieces of wood, stones, its own fecal material
and other foreign bodies.
Habit of eating wood, stones, sticks,
earth. Excessive desire to eat stool (their own or other
animals).
Destruction of blankets, towels, clothing.
Destructive behavior and shredding of blankets or
bedding.
Convulsive seizures. Muscular
incoordination.
Seizures, epilepsy, chorea, twitches,
etc. Ataxia.
Agonizing pain and constriction in the throat; spasms
of the throat.
Psychomotor seizure syndrome.
Increased sexual desire; satyriasis, nymphomania;
attempted rape.
Increased sexual desire, even in neutered males;
humping; sexual aggression.
Inflammation of the heart muscle; disturbed heart
function, irregular rhythm, heart rate too slow or too fast; heart
failure.
Irregular pulse; heart failure.
Periods of excitement and jerky breathing; cluster
breathing.
“Reverse” sneezing
attacks.
These symptoms of rabies vaccinosis are
not familiar to us because, until vaccines were widely employed, we never saw
rabies in a chronic form in our patients. Even now, these effects of rabies’
vaccination are generally unrecognized even though follow-up of changes in dog
temperaments and physical condition after rabies’ vaccination will readily
confirm this.
Chronic Feline Panleukopenia
The third, and final, disease we are
to consider is Feline Panleukopenia. The symptoms of this dread disease are:[4]
Lassitude.
Inappetance.
Fever.
Rough, unkempt coat.
Indifference to owner or surroundings.
Rapid weight loss.
Dehydration.
Vomiting.
Profuse, watery, diarrhea (often blood-tinged).
Mucopurulent discharges from the eyes and nose.
The changes to a
chronic disease condition are shown in this table:
Lassitude; indifference to owner or
surroundings.
Lazy cats, not active, lie around most of the
time.
Inappetance.
Appetite problems, finicky, not wanting to eat
well.
Fever.
Chronic fever, for weeks, with few symptoms except for
cervical gland enlargements.
Rough, unkempt coat.
Poor groomers (or cats that never
groom).
Dehydration.
Chronic dehydration leading to cystitis and bladder
calculus formation; chronic interstitial nephritis.
Feline leukemia, in the primary stage,
is characterized by fever, malaise, anorexia, lymphadenopathy, leukopenia,
anemia, and thrombocytopenia.[5] Thus, in many ways, chronic
panleukopenia looks like feline leukemia. It is like the acute syndrome of
panleukopenia stretched out in time to so that it becomes chronic. Probably,
by this point, many of you are wondering what I can mean about panleukopenia (or
any of these diseases) becoming a chronic disease like feline leukemia. I am
speaking from the homeopathic perspective that understands that every being,
including viruses, have a vital force. This vital force, which is the life force
or chi, is what is the energetic pattern that develops and maintains the
physical form. It is a downstream flow of information from the energetic to the
physical. When this physical aspect is changed or blocked, as happens when the
chronic vaccine disease is established, then the life force behind the disease
manifests itself in a different way. These new forms, we give new names.
We haven’t really eliminated anything by vaccination, we have just changed its
shape. I picked these three diseases for discussion because of their
importance to dogs and cats who have suffered from them for thousands of years.
They would seem to have a susceptibility to these diseases that has never been
satisfied. Now, with the extension of these diseases into a chronic form with
vaccination, the influence of these diseases on the dog and cat species has
never been so great as today.
Are Vaccines Effective?
The last thing I want to consider in this
discussion is the larger question — are vaccines really effective? To answer
this question is more difficult than it would seem at first. We don’t really
have a system for tabulating the incidence of the common diseases of dogs and
cats, for example. There are figures for some of the reportable diseases of
livestock, but the rapid turnover of these animals makes long term studies
almost impossible. However, what we can do is kind of a reverse process of what
we usually find ourselves doing as veterinarians. Instead of using animals to
study human disease, let’s use human disease to answer our question. There
are statistics for the common human diseases and we can use these to
answer our question about the efficacy of vaccinations.
Smallpox
Let’s start our evaluation with smallpox which was the
disease for which Jenner developed his method of vaccination in 1796.[6] There are two things of
interest around this time of Jenner’s early work. First is that James Phipps,
the eight-year-old boy initially vaccinated by Jenner in 1796, was re-vaccinated
20 times, and died at the age of twenty. Second, Jenner’s own son, who was also
vaccinated more than once, died at the age of twenty-one. Both succumbed to
tuberculosis, a condition that some researchers have linked to the smallpox
vaccine. It is apparent that from the beginning, doctors were confused about the
question of vaccine protection. They thought that because the specific syndrome
of smallpox did not appear that the vaccine was effective. They did not see that
the overall level of health of the boys receiving the vaccine was equally an
indicator of vaccine effectiveness. Another thing of importance to understand
in evaluating the significance of smallpox vaccination is that smallpox and
other communicable diseases were declining before vaccination programs
were enforced. This may be attributed to the sanitation reforms and nutritional
teachings instituted around the mid-1800’s as much as to the vaccination
programs as these other communicable diseases, for which there was no
vaccination, were also declining at the same rate. The interesting thing,
however, is that the incidence of smallpox actually increased once
vaccination programs were instituted. In Jenner’s time, there were only a few
hundred cases of smallpox in England. After more than fifteen years of mandatory
vaccinations, in 1870 and 1871 alone more than 23,000 people died from the
disease. Later, in Japan, nearly 29,000 people died in just seven years under a
stringent compulsory vaccination and re-vaccination program. This increase in
smallpox deaths was associated with a noticeable lack of protection — not the
best combination of events. For example, in Germany, over 124,000 people died of
smallpox during the same epidemic. All had been vaccinated. Additionally,
(unaltered) hospital records consistently show that about 90 percent of all
smallpox cases occurred after the individual was vaccinated. This lack of
efficacy and increase in disease incidence, while other communicable diseases
were declining, led to the refusal of smallpox vaccination by some countries.
This resulted in a drop of the incidence of the disease that is quite
remarkable. In Australia, when two children died from their smallpox shots, the
government terminated compulsory vaccinations. As a result, smallpox virtually
disappeared in that country (three cases in fifteen years). When England began
to reject vaccination, then the incidence of smallpox deaths decreased
accordingly.[7](slide 1) Note: The slides are not yet posted here—a future
project.
Polio
This is another disease for which people assume that
vaccination has made a great difference in incidence. However, let’s look more
closely at the facts.[8] From 1923 to 1953,
before the Salk killed-virus vaccine was introduced, the polio death rate
in the United States and England had already declined on its own by 47% and 55%
respectively. Statistics show a similar decline in other European countries as
well.[9](slide
2) When the vaccine became available, many European countries
questioned its effectiveness and refused to systematically inoculate their
citizens. Yet, polio epidemics also ended in these countries as
well. Additionally, as with smallpox vaccine, the number of reported cases of
polio following mass inoculations with
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Holistic Animal Health: Vaccinosis Health Hazard of Routine Vaccination: placing our animals at risk
Most pet owners aren't aware of the dangers in animal vaccinations that have
been discovered in recent years. The major veterinary associations now agree
that vaccinations can trigger all sorts of maladies, from allergies to cancer -
but most pet caretakers (and many veterinarians, it seems) haven't gotten the
word. "With vaccines that are repeated year after year, the frequency and
severity of these side-effects in our pets has increased dramatically. Most of
the problems involve the immune system. After all, the immune system is what
vaccines are designed to stimulate. But they do so in a very unnatural way that
can overwhelm and confuse the immune system."Dr. Donna Starita Mehan DVM
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Dr. Ronald D. Schultz, Ph.D..- "Annual revaccination provides
no benefit and may increase the risk for adverse reactions. The percentage of
vaccinated animals (those vaccinated only as puppies) protected from clinical
disease after challenge with canine distemper virus, canine parvovirus and
canine adenovirus in the study was greater than 95%." Current and Future Canine
and Feline Vaccination Programs. Dr. Ronald
Schultz is a Professor and Chair of the Department of Pathobiological Sciences
at the School of Veterinary Medicine, UW-Madison. Schultz, R.D. - Current and
Future Canine and Feline Vaccination Programs. Vet Med 3: No. 3, 233-254,
1998 more
Dr. Charles E Loops DVM - "The first thing that must
change with routine vaccinations is the myth that vaccines are not harmful.
Veterinarians and animal guardians have to come to realise that they are not
protecting animals from disease by annual vaccinations, but in fact, are
destroying the health and immune systems of these same animals they love and
care for Homeopathic veterinarians and other holistic practitioners have
maintained for some time that vaccinations do more harm than they provide
benefits. Vaccinations represent a major assault on the body's immune system....
Vaccine induced chronic diseases range from
life-threatening conditions such as auto-immune crises to conditions destroying
the quality of life of an animal as in chronic skin allergies." moreDr. Dee Blanco, D.V.M - "You take healthy animals and often very quickly after you
vaccinate, you can see simple things like itching of the skin or
excessive licking of the paws, sometimes even with no
eruptions and licking of the air. We see a lot of
epilepsy/seizure, often after a rabies vaccination. Or dogs or cats can
become aggressive for several days.
Frequently, you'll see urinary tract infections in cats, often within
three months after their [annual] vaccination. If you step back, open your mind
and heart, you'll start to see patterns of illness post-vaccination." (veterinarians have also observed vaccinosis
symptom of severe inflammation of the tail)
Dr. Pat Bradley, DVM - "In a general and frightening
context, I see the overall health and longevity of animals deteriorating. The
bodies of most animals have a tremendous capacity to detoxify poisons, but they
do have a limit. I think we often exceed that limit and overwhelm the body's
immune system function with toxins from vaccines. The most common problems I see
that are directly related to vaccines on a day to day basis are ear or skin
conditions, such as chronic discharges and itching. I also see behavior problems
such as fearfulness or aggression. Often guardians will report that these begin
shortly after vaccination and are exacerbated with every
vaccine."
Dr. Dennis Macy DVM - "We should not allow politics and tradition or
greed to enter the decision (on frequency of vaccination).
A great number of studies have shown that when you vaccinate
an animal, the body's inflammatory cytokines not only increase dramatically, but
so do the brain's inflammatory chemicals. Many pet guardians observe changes in
a pet subsequent to the first series of animal vaccinations - lethargy,
vomiting, itching, ear or eye discharge, to name but a few. The veterinarian
will reassure you that these symptoms are normal. Sadly, for some companion
animals, these symptoms worsen and lead to death. For other pets, they lead to a
lifetime of health problems.
Dog's
tail - (photographs courtesy of Sherri Regalbuto)
My
German Shepherd dog Shasta, had a similar looking tail. It was a direct
result of adverse reaction to vaccines. The inflammed area of the tail would
swell up with fluid and became extremely sensitive, painful and very itchy. Poor
Shasta would constantly bite and lick the area. Correctly prescribed homeopathic
remedies can often undue the damage caused by vaccines. Homeopathy is
noted for its success to antidote or remove the toxic effects of vaccines and to
re-establish balance in the organism and restore health. Certain homeopathic
remedies taken aftervaccination can minimize vaccine damage. A professional homeopathic vet should be consulted for
more information. Dr. Falconer DVM also uses Transfer Factor to modulate/boost animal's immune
system and protect against vaccination adverse reaction. Some people have found
that marine phytoplankton is also effective in improving
their animals' overall health.
My other German
Shepherd dog Kuuma had a different reaction to vaccines. Soon after
I rescued Kuuma, I noticed an inflammed spot 2 or 3 inches in diameter on his
left thigh which he constantly licked. That was precisely the spot where he had
been vaccinated. I treated him with homeoapthic remedies and rubbed neem oil on the
wound. Whithin a few weeks the area was healed. A few years later, Kuuma
experienced a bizarre symptom of sudden and unexplained strange behavior. One afternoon, he became
restless and started crying in pain anytime I would just walk by him, as though
the movement of the air was hurting him ?!?!? That same morning, we had an hour
long walk in the hills and he was perfectly fine. At home, he laid by my side
all day, sleeping peacefully.
The symptoms occured suddenly by mid-afternoon when he woke up. When I
tried to pet him, he would yelp as if he had been hit. He was in constant pain,
yet he had no injury and no fever. I suspected vaccine reaction and tried
numerous homeopathic remedies such as Silica, Thuja, as well as Rhus Tox and
Arsenicum for his restless behavior, but none helped. That night, poor Kuuma
could barely sleep and cried almost all the time. The next day, I gave him a
single dose of the homeopathic (nosode) remedy
Lyssin (hydrophobinum) 200 C and within hours, I saw major improvement.
For the first time in 18 hours he was able to sleep again and wouldn't yelp in
pain everytime I walked by him. If I had left this dog with a dog sitter or in a
boarding place, I would have been convinced that someone had mistreated him
severely. Kuuma is a very healthy, fearless high spirited dog. I had never seen
him looking so pittyful and miserable before. Lyssin is available from Dr.
Charles Loops DVM -- (A few hours after giving him Lyssin, I also
gave him a single dose of Lachesis 30 C when I observed that sleep
agravated his symptoms)
I agree with your point on constitutional prescribing. I also have always been wary of people saying you are a nux or something else. That is too much simplification.
You can use one or two symptoms out of a proving mat medica) to prescribe a remedy for a patient that will be as good as any 'constitutional' prescription, as long as these 1 or two symptoms are really homeopathic to the patient.
About the provings, they are scientific in a different way from modern medicine data. The info they contain is usually (a part from toxicity symtoms) subjective because that is what it is all about: homeopathy is about the subjective way a patient lives his/her life and what needs treating is that part of the patient's subjective analysis that stops the patient from living 'in harmony'; where the patient ends up in a vicious circle and which will result in pathology.
This subject is exetensively treated in the January edition of the e-zine.
The only reason why I am so knitty gritty about the things we are discussing is that we should approach each patient as a new case with a wide open mind to the remedy that is going to be needed. We have a tendency to categorise our patients into the remedies 'we know' (often polychrests). That is why I agree that the labeling of a nux or a pulsatilla is not good enough, that is also why 'indication' of a remedy is not really wrong but has the wrong intention in it. I suppose I 'preach' some sort of humbleness: listen to the patient and let the patient only decide what symptoms are important and to what remedy they lead.
That does not mean that one cannot use arnica for a bruise, dulcamara for a cold from having had a wet head, hekla lava for an osteitis of the jaws, Belladonna for an acute fever with red hot head,
but you cannot use argentum nitricum for nervousness, colocynthesis for colic, nux vomica for over-eating (these indications are for too vague, I am not at all sure we help the patient really)
I agree with your questions on these matters and for simplification I would say the following:
we could devide the use of homeopathic medicines in two systems:
1) herbal type of prescription: the complaint is what indicates the medicine, just like it is done in herbal medicine. The homeopathic preparation has the advantage to be easy to produce, stock and transport, downside, your selection has to be just that little bit more acurate than a simple herbal prescription but still resembles the principle. The use of other remedies which are not herbal (like arsenicum) are used in a similar way: grandmother's experience and know how on the use of substances to treat people (there is a vast amount of info out there which has find it's way in our materia medica's)
2) completely on the opposite there is the perfect homeopathy: the one remedy for the one patient that will help this patient for long times for all his/her complaints (remedy for life)
Most of the homeopathy sits in between these two, sometimes a little more to the simple technique sometimes a litle more to the 'pure'side.
What I am trying to convene is that the more we make an effort to come close to the 'perfect' homeopathy the better for the patient and sometimes we will hit gold.
It is my belief that if we can prove what can be achieved with this very profound acting homeopathy to the outside world through repeated successes, there is a good chance of a bright future for homeopathy. If we keep prescribing too much at the surface, aspirin may keep its popularity (=easier).
Edward
about the snippets: there is just that too much room for criticism of many opinions and experiences in these form a scientific pov
edward
homeopathy for the patient behind the symptoms.
edward@debeukelaer.fslife.co.uk
It is my belief that if we can prove what can be achieved with this very profound acting homeopathy to the outside world through repeated successes, there is a good chance of a bright future for homeopathy. If we keep prescribing too much at the surface, aspirin may keep its popularity (=easier).
Edward
about the snippets: there is just that too much room for criticism of many opinions and experiences in these form a scientific pov
Hi Edward,
Not much to comment on here. Nothing to debate about, really. I want to keep reading on Masi, as you noted. In the meantime, I'll invite Dr. Kaviraj to check this thread out. He has a lot of interesting things to say and perspectives to add. In fact, he's out there in U.K. with you. You might even be neighbors and become beer buddies!
Re: snippets.
Got another for you. Scientific? About as scientific as allopathy's ability to say they don't cause such things. But, we could spend the rest of our lives debating about that. Evidence not "scientific" enough was the claim when the tobacco companies said it does not cause cancer. They said the same thing when men in their flying contraptions proposed human flight. Said the same thing when scientists warned FDR the Nazis were pursuing a massive, new bomb through the seemingly impossible splitting of a mere atom. "The hell you say?!!! Energy from a wee, little atom?! To make a bomb? You're all nuts!! You're quacks!!!" Japan also had an A-bomb in the works by 1945, but we nuked them first. As allopathy does with vaccine scientific data.....truths of history like that tend to be lost, often for commercial reasons, and so you're fed the revisionist history drivel that the Allies were mean, nasty, ruthless, warmongers who just itched to nuke two cities if only for the scientific test data it would return. Truth is also that, yes, both cities were nuked for the sake of bomb-tuning science, too. Damn devils them scientists! Not sure we should be entrusting them with reporting of the truth at all times. Might even be more reliable to trust in the most certainly un-biased, fair, never a bit commercial, and balanced "mainstream media" and TV news, eh?
A Contentious Issue The Science behind Vaccination The Current State of Play for the Animals The Barriers to Knowledge The Science of Vaccine Damage A Wide Range of Vaccine-induced Diseases Vaccines Stimulate an Inflammatory Response A Theory on Inflammation The Final Insult Pet owners
should be aware that vaccines compromise the health of their cherished pets,
causing serious side-effects including allergies, arthritis, behavioural
problems, cancer, paralysis and, atworst,
death. My partner Rob and I attended a Crosby, Stills and Nash
concert recently. It was a wonderful, rare treat, and fulfilled a dream I've
nurtured for many years. I was particularly moved by Dave Crosby as he sang,
"Speak, speak out against the madness". We have to do that, don't we? We have to
speak out when our loved ones are being harmed. If we don't, then it seems to me
that we are just part of the problem. Later in the same song Crosby sang, "It
appears to be a long time before the dawn". And this is true, too: it seems to
be taking so long for the truth to prevail and be acted upon by the veterinary
community—for the profession is committing a crime by vaccinating animals year
after year until they drop. I've been saying this since 1994, when I formed a
group called Canine Health Concern (CHC). The aim of this group is to educate
pet owners in an attempt to stop the carnage that is being visited upon the
animals by the corporations and professionals who profess to be helping them. My
mission is quite personal, since the science points towards the horrifying fact
that vaccines have killed three of my young, beautiful canine friends. The first
shock came when Oliver suffered from rear-end paralysis and died when he was
only four years old. Prudence died a slow and agonising death from leukaemia
when she was only six; and Samson had a reaction to his puppy shot and
first-year booster, and died of cancer at the tender age of five. All of these
conditions are linked scientifically to vaccination. My other dogs were also
unable to escape the damage that vaccines can cause. Chappie had thyroid
disease, Sophie had arthritis and Guinnevere suffered from allergies. Again,
these conditions can be scientifically shown to relate to vaccine damage. I
believe that vets of the future, and our children's doctors, will look back upon
the vaccination era with horror and shame. The horror will come from the
knowledge that so much pain and misery was caused by healing professionals
acting in ignorance, and the shame will come from the wilfulness of that
ignorance. A Contentious
Issue If you will forgive me for making one more personal
comment before I move on to substantiate my outrageous claims, I would like to
address the issue of "contentiousness", which is a label I've grown used to but
which I do not intend preventing me from speaking the truth. You may have
noticed that I've been using some pretty strong language in the opening
paragraphs of this article. This is deliberate. It's deliberate because doctors,
veterinarians and scientists have been numbed or socially moulded into language
and behaviour that follow strict codes of professional etiquette. The pressure
is upon them to be polite and refrain from offending one another with ideas,
which means that the truth is continually stifled. By speaking directly, it is
my intention to shock that numbness out of the system which perpetuates such
catastrophic error. Besides which, the truth needs to be heard. I believe
that my dogs died prematurely, and millions of other dogs, cats and horses have
died and are continuing to die because of the false ideas or beliefs held by our
medical and veterinary professions. This faulty structure of belief is built,
supported and held rigidly in place by a system which is killing the life on
this planet. This system ensures that professionals are taught in colleges which
rely upon big business for funding, which means that their education is faulty.
Research organisations also rely upon big business for funding, which means that
we can rarely trust the research. The media rely upon big business for funding,
so we can scarcely believe what we read. And professionals in practice rely
upon big business to stay in business. More worrying, perhaps, is the fact that
our governments seem, from my direct experience, to put big business interests
before life. We are, in fact, looking at a juggernaut of death which is
hurling itself at top speed towards the grave. We will not stop it by whimpering
quietly in its face. We must educate ourselves with the truth and stand firmly
in line together and shout, "No!" Failing this, the lives of your children, and
your animals, depend at least upon your taking the time to understand the
issues. The Science
behind Vaccination Vaccination was born in England in 1798,
when Edward Jenner observed that people who worked close to cows didn't get
smallpox. He injected cowpox into humans and deduced that those humans were
prevented from getting smallpox. You can imagine that, during the days of poor
nutrition and appalling sanitation, the concept of a miracle cure for infectious
disease would have been seized upon. And it was. During the 1800s, Louis
Pasteur developed the technology still further by attenuating vaccines, i.e.,
rendering them less harmful. It naturally took little time for vaccines to
become big business, and over 200 years on there are vaccines against a wide
array of bacterial and viral diseases in humans and many species of animal.
Ignoring the fact that epidemics go in cycles and die out naturally (like the
plague, for example), and ignoring the fact that our understanding of hygiene
and nutrition might have something to do with the reduction in epidemics,
vaccines have been given the largest slice of the credit. Conventional
medicine works on the risk/benefit ratio. All conventional Pharmaceuticals come
with the risk of unwanted side-effects—but if they can be shown to help more
people than they harm, then their dangers are ignored. It is no wonder, then,
that the multibillion-dollar international vaccine industry has sponsored
absolutely no long-term studies—in humans or animals— to ascertain what the
risks of vaccines might actually be. And when individual scientists take the
bull by the horns and conduct their own under-funded research, they are
routinely discredited, usually by "experts" who have shares in, or lucrative
consultancy income from, the vaccine industry. Even government-funded research
gives those with vested interests full voice. I guess if you can inject
substances that make humans and animals sick, then you can also make a lot of
money from supplying drugs that promise to alleviate these vaccine-induced
illnesses. Politically and economically, it also makes sense to keep industry
thriving and people in employment, and it also helps if big businesses enrich
political campaign funds. The Current State of Play for
the Animals This is what I have seen happening, time after
time, over the last 12 years. A "responsible" pet owner takes their dog (or cat
or horse) to the vet for their annual booster. Shortly after, the animal
develops epilepsy, or arthritis, or behavioural problems, or thyroid disease, or
diabetes, or skin complaints, or allergies, or heart failure, or liver or kidney
damage, or paralysis of the rear end, or colitis, or even cancer, leukaemia or
another life-threatening immune-mediated disease shortly after the
shot. Usually neither the pet owner nor the vet suspects a link. If the owner
has been particularly close to their animal friend, however, they will start to
ask questions. They may ask their vet if he or she suspects a link between the
booster and the subsequent illness. The answer will invariably be "No". Very
occasionally the owner won't let it rest there. They'll start to seek an answer
to the question, "Why did my friend die?" They will then discover that a
vaccine can indeed cause any of these illnesses and that—much to their
horror—there was actually no need to give their friend an annual
booster. There will, however, be no recourse. They cannot bring their dead
animal back to life. If they go through the courts, the system is such that very
little impact will be made for their own case or for the health of any other
animals. The best that can happen is that individuals, one at a time, slowly
change their vaccine practices. The Barriers to Knowledge It's
not easy to get your message across when you're engaged in the vaccine debate.
The real problem lies in the fact that the science is somewhat complex and,
bizarrely, the logic of vaccination is somewhat faulty. It just doesn't make
sense—so it's very much easier to hand the decision-making process over to an
expert in a white coat. Unfortunately, this leaves many people turning away
from the effort involved in looking at the issues surrounding vaccination,
relying instead upon someone else's judgement while at the same time suffering
incredible anguish. I have had letters, emails and phone calls from so many
people who worried about revaccinating their animals but who did it anyway
because a vet told them to, and who now need grief counselling. If nothing
else, the 12 years I have spent running Canine Health Concern have shown me that
this is the next necessary stage in human evolution: to take responsibility for
our lives and the lives of those in our care. The system is so complex, and so
swayed by the dominating effect of economics, that we have no choice now. You
cannot afford to subject your animals, or your children, to medical
interventions that you do not understand. The belief system upon which the
conventional medical model is founded is so faulty, so corrupt and so dangerous
that you simply cannot afford to follow blindly. Now I appreciate that many
doctors and vets reading these words might be enraged by what I have said. They
spent so much time, energy and money in obtaining their qualifications, after
all. They actually do know more than most of us, and their whole lives are
dedicated to healing the sick. Indeed, there is much in the conventional medical
model that is good. But doctors and vets will also resonate with the truth of
what I am saying, however uncomfortable or angry it makes them feel. Recent
studies show that three times more people in the UK die each year from drugs
their doctors prescribe than they do in road traffic accidents. Doctors and vets
do not have time to study all the side-effects of every drug: much of their
understanding about drugs comes from pharmaceutical company representatives.
They also have to concern themselves with income from their practice. And no one
is able to know everything. Drugs like Vioxx and Co-Proxamol in the human
medical field, and Rimadyl and Deramaxx in the canine field, have now been shown
to have death as a potential side-effect—but only after they passed all the
safety and licensing requirements and after tens of thousands died. In America,
where the FDA took action, Rimadyl comes with data sheets to warn dog owners of
potential death if their pet is given the drug, and the makers of Deramaxx have
had their knuckles rapped. And yet newly qualified student vets, who come on our
Foundation in Canine Healthcare course, have been told in college about only the
benefits of these drugs. Patients and clients, on the other hand, do have
time and often the motivation to research their own illnesses or the illnesses
of their children and animals and the medications that are prescribed. All of us
are far better educated than we used to be, even if we don't possess the same
qualifications as the healthcare professionals. We have minds, and we know how
to use them. And because the buck stops with us, we have a duty of care to
ourselves and our loved ones. All too frequently, however, animal guardians are
moved to research after their friends have died. My aim, and the aim of
Canine Health Concern, is to provide information before tragedy occurs. Sadly, I
cannot make you read this information: only your love can do this. I can say,
though, that the animals have been concerned with human evolution since the
beginning of time, and they will continue to sacrifice themselves upon the altar
of science until we humans get it. Truly, if only we knew the full extent of the
love being poured out by the animals towards humanity, we would bow down in
gratitude to them, and no effort would be too much for their sakes. The Science of Vaccine
Damage A team at Purdue University School of Veterinary
Medicine conducted several studies 1,2 to determine if vaccines can
cause changes in the immune system of dogs that might lead to life-threatening
immune-mediated diseases. They obviously conducted this research because concern
already existed. It was sponsored by the Haywood Foundation which itself was
looking for evidence that such changes in the human immune system might also be
vaccine induced. It found the evidence. The vaccinated, but not the
non-vaccinated, dogs in the Purdue studies developed autoantibodies to many of
their own biochemicals, including fibronectin, laminin, DNA, albumin, cytochrome
C, cardiolipin and collagen. This means that the vaccinated dogs —but not the
non-vaccinated dogs—were attacking their own fibronectin, which is involved in
tissue repair, cell multiplication and growth, and differentiation between
tissues and organs in a living organism. The vaccinated Purdue dogs also
developed autoantibodies to laminin, which is involved in many cellular
activities including the adhesion, spreading, differentiation, proliferation and
movement of cells. Vaccines thus appear to be capable of removing the natural
intelligence of cells. Autoantibodies to cardiolipin are frequently found in
patients with the serious disease systemic lupus erythematosus and also in
individuals with other autoimmune diseases. The presence of elevated
anti-cardiolipin antibodies is significantly associated with clots within the
heart or blood vessels, in poor blood clotting, haemorrhage, bleeding into the
skin, foetal loss and neurological conditions. The Purdue studies also found
that vaccinated dogs were developing autoantibodies to their own collagen. About
one quarter of all the protein in the body is collagen. Collagen provides
structure to our bodies, protecting and supporting the softer tissues and
connecting them with the skeleton. It is no wonder that Canine Health Concern's
1997 study of 4,000 dogs showed a high number of dogs developing mobility
problems shortly after they were vaccinated (noted in my 1997 book, What Vets
Don't Tell You About Vaccines). Perhaps most worryingly, the Purdue studies
found that the vaccinated dogs had developed autoantibodies to their own DNA.
Did the alarm bells sound? Did the scientific community call a halt to the
vaccination program? No. Instead, they stuck their fingers in the air, saying
more research is needed to ascertain whether vaccines can cause genetic damage.
Meanwhile, the study dogs were found good homes, but no long-term follow-up has
been conducted. At around the same time, the American Veterinary Medical
Association (AVMA) Vaccine-Associated Feline Sarcoma Task Force initiated
several studies to find out why 160,000 cats each year in the USA develop
terminal cancer at their vaccine injection sites.3 The fact that cats can get
vaccine-induced cancer has been acknowledged by veterinary bodies around the
world, and even the British Government acknowledged it through its Working Group
charged with the task of looking into canine and feline vaccines4 following
pressure from Canine Health Concern. What do you imagine was the advice of the
AVMA Task Force, veterinary bodies and governments? "Carry on vaccinating until
we find out why vaccines are killing cats, and which cats are most likely to
die." In America, in an attempt to mitigate the problem, they're vaccinating
cats in the tail or leg so they can amputate when cancer appears. Great advice
if it's not your cat amongst the hundreds of thousands on the "oops"
list. But other species are okay—right? Wrong. In August 2003, the Journal of
Veterinary Medicine carried an Italian study which showed that dogs also develop
vaccine-induced cancers at their injection sites.5 We already know that
vaccine-site cancer is a possible sequel to human vaccines, too, since the Salk
polio vaccine was said to carry a monkey retrovirus (from cultivating the
vaccine on monkey organs) that produces inheritable cancer. The monkey
retrovirus SV40 keeps turning up in human cancer sites. It is also widely
acknowledged that vaccines can cause a fast-acting, usually fatal, disease
called autoimmune haemolytic anaemia (AIHA). Without treatment, and frequently
with treatment, individuals can die in agony within a matter of days. Merck,
itself a multinational vaccine manufacturer, states in The Merck Manual of
Diagnosis and Therapy that autoimmune haemolytic anaemia may be caused by
modified live-virus vaccines, as do Tizard's Veterinary Immunology (4th
edition) and the Journal of Veterinary Internal Medicine.6 The
British Government's Working Group, despite being staffed by vaccine-industry
consultants who say they are independent, also acknowledged this fact. However,
no one warns the pet owners before their animals are subjected to an unnecessary
booster, and very few owners are told why after their pets die of
AIHA. A
Wide Range of Vaccine-induced Diseases We also found some
worrying correlations between vaccine events and the onset of arthritis in our
1997 survey. Our concerns were compounded by research in the human field. The
New England Journal of Medicine, for example, reported that it is
possible to isolate the rubella virus from affected joints in children
vaccinated against rubella. It also told of the isolation of viruses from the
peripheral blood of women with prolonged arthritis following
vaccination.7 Then, in 2000, CHC's findings were confirmed by
research which showed that polyarthritis and other diseases like amyloidosis,
which affects organs in dogs, were linked to the combined vaccine given to
dogs.8 There is a huge body of research, despite the paucity of funding from
the vaccine industry, to confirm that vaccines can cause a wide range of brain
and central nervous system damage. Merck itself states in its Manual that
vaccines (i.e., its own products) can cause encephalitis: brain
inflammation/damage. In some cases, encephalitis involves lesions in the brain
and throughout the central nervous system. Merck states that "examples are the
encephalitides following measles, chickenpox, rubella, smallpox vaccination,
vaccinia, and many other less well defined viral infections". When the dog
owners who took part in the CHC survey reported that their dogs developed short
attention spans, 73.1% of the dogs did so within three months of a vaccine
event. The same percentage of dogs was diagnosed with epilepsy within three
months of a shot (but usually within days). We also found that 72.5% of dogs
that were considered by their owners to be nervous and of a worrying
disposition, first exhibited these traits within the three-month
post-vaccination period. I would like to add for the sake of Oliver, my
friend who suffered from paralysed rear legs and death shortly after a vaccine
shot, that "paresis" is listed in Merck's Manual as a symptom of
encephalitis. This is defined as muscular weakness of a neural (brain) origin
which involves partial or incomplete paralysis, resulting from lesions at any
level of the descending pathway from the brain. Hind limb paralysis is one of
the potential consequences. Encephalitis, incidentally, is a disease that can
manifest across the scale from mild to severe and can also cause sudden
death. Organ failure must also be suspected when it occurs shortly after a
vaccine event. Dr Larry Glickman, who spearheaded the Purdue research into
post-vaccination biochemical changes in dogs, wrote in a letter to Cavalier
Spaniel breeder Bet Hargreaves: "Our ongoing studies of dogs show that
following routine vaccination, there is a significant rise in the level of
antibodies dogs produce against their own tissues. Some of these antibodies have
been shown to target the thyroid gland, connective tissue such as that found in
the valves of the heart, red blood cells, DNA, etc. I do believe that the heart
conditions in Cavalier King Charles Spaniels could be the end result of repeated
immunisations by vaccines containing tissue culture contaminants that cause a
progressive immune response directed at connective tissue in the heart valves.
The clinical manifestations would be more pronounced in dogs that have a
genetic predisposition [although] the findings should be generally applicable to
all dogs regardless of their breed." I must mention here that Dr Glickman
believes that vaccines are a necessary evil, but that safer vaccines need to be
developed. Meanwhile, please join the queue to place your dog, cat, horse and
child on the Russian roulette wheel because a scientist says you
should. Vaccines Stimulate an
Inflammatory Response The word "allergy" is synonymous with
"sensitivity" and "inflammation". It should, by rights, also be synonymous with
the word "vaccination". This is what vaccines do: they sensitise (render
allergic) an individual
Oh, by the way, I don't support all the conclusions derived from the snippets, but they are certainly interesting perspectives we oddly never hear about.
I'm a new member here, a veterinary homeopath by profession and also a tutor of advanced veterinary homeopathy with BIH. I'd be happy to add some comments to your Lab case. I also wish to commend you and thank you for the details on a case that turned out less than perfectly, thus one from which to learn. It is my belief that animals such as this lab have a life path to teach us lessons we need to know - at a sad cost to those affected by the loss - but with great potential to help others in future.
Most of my work is with immune compromise illnesses, mainly in cats, but also some cases in dogs and other species. I have handled for example more than 500 cases of FIP in cats, and mention this for a specific reason to do with your case here: The common factor which is so disastrous is the prednisone involvement. It is my impression that allopaths throw prednisone at anything they do not know how to fix - but unfortunately it is like a brick wall to also prevent homeopathy from having access...
You spotted the other toxic issues of vaccines and Advantage - but based on those 500 cases, nothing causes a worse prognosis than the presence of prednisone in an immune compromised case. This is because prednisone destroys the thymus activity needed to produce Th-1 cytokines such as anti-cancer cytokines. It is, in my experience (- those 500 cases -) so powerful at Th-1 cytokine suppression, that it is VERY difficult to break through it with homeopathy, and yet that is what has to happen to enable the body to rebuild health using homeopathy. Every chronic disease has various cytokines out of balance, (different ratios of incorrect cytokine levels for each illness - it is a main emphasis of current immunology research) and restoration of health can only happen once they are back in balance. Prednisone blocks this from happening. Homeopathy works efficiently only after that blockage is removed. Until then you can use homeopathy to do everything except fix the immune system and whatever it needs to do - so an immune compromise illness will not come right that way. You can get a false sense of improvement initially in presence of prednisone - a cruel trick as it is a false superficial view. The damage is ongoing "under" that prednisone veil and it will come to the fore and expose the disaster that was ongoing beneath - namely in the cytokine realms of the immune system.
So one suggestion I will make is that in future you will see prednisone as the death sentence it is, and do everything possible to reverse that position in the animal. Fast! Some options I suggest: Introduce Moducare as a food supplement. It is plant sterols and sterolins in a specific ratio which, as research shows, helps the immune system restore Th-1 actvity. Get rid of the prednisone. If it has only been given a short while it can be stopped without tapering to help speed the removal of deadly damage, provided the adrenals are supported with the right nutrients namely (for 100 lbs of animal and in proportion for other weights): Pantothenic acid 1000 mg a day Ascorbic acid or ascorbyl palmitate (I prefer the former which is more appropriate for redox reactions to detoxify) - ideally intravenously, but most USA vets are unfamiliar with that therapy. Use every 4 hours to bowel tolerance by mouth. It may need around 10,000 mg a day or more. Vit B6 100mg a day B-50 tablet (50mg each of the majority of the B vitamins)
If there has been longterm prednisone like 18 yrs of it I had in one case, wonder the cat was still alive - then you do have to taper despite the supporting vitamins as there is no leftover adrenal function to speak of.
If you can find it use sarcode Adrenal 4C to stimulate. I also use Prednisone 30C to help undo damage. (Simillimum in New Zealand has it)
SO in my opinion and experience, and based on allopathic research showing what harm it does to Th-1 cytokine production - prednisone is the MAIN reason you lost the dog case. I appreciate your discussion of follow up issues that occur and your (IMO correct) assessment of them - but there is more to it. Vaccines are a secondary reason, also due to the known effects of damage to th-1 cytokines and the thymus. Soy food is another factor that damages Th-1 cytokines and thymus activity (also all well documented in allopathic research) - to predispose chronic disease, though it is not in all that many dog foods. It is still worth checking dog foods for canine food toxins in all dog cases. (Ask if you need a list)
After years of working on immune compromise cases, it is my opinion that prednisone should be banned in all cases except Addison's disease. Nothing makes my heart sink like hearing the new case I take has been given this death sentence drug. I call it a death sentence drug because chronic disease moves SO fast in animals that there is not time to undo prednisone damage and allow homeopathy to work. The disease is rampant below that prednisone layer, and will kill the animal first. It is a race. Animal research shows that the thymus (where Th-1 cytokines originate) can be suppressed and damaged as much as 90% by a single steroid injection.
As you may know, animal vaccines also skew the immune system to the Th-2 side causing excess Th-2 cytokines and damaging the body's first line of defence using Th-1 cytokines. The result is a predisposition to all the Th-2 skewed diseases. (Examples are allergies, cancers, diabetes, and a host of others that are rife since vaccines were turned into a billion dollar industry just from pets). This Th-1 cytokine damage from vaccines is all very well documented in research in the USA National Library of Medicine, as is the prednisone damage. It is all allopathic research of course - but it is valid. The trick in homeopathy is to make use of this allopathic research knowledge to improve our chances with homeopathy.
It's not necessarily important for a homeopath to know what cytokines are high or low for a specific illness, except to know what to supplement. It is nearly always Th-1 cytokines that are not there to work properly. Lymnphoma involves cell death caused by lack of specific cytokines and a subset of these are involved in cell death in hepatoma type lesions (per Nov 2008 research they are IL-2, INF-gamma and IL-10). IL-2 and INF-gamma are Th-1 cytokines. IL-10 has regulating jobs between Th1 and Th2 and is also out of whack in the disease you handled. So with these not working, cell death would occur for the cells that can fight lymphoma. I mention this as while you were dosing Ars, these cytokines were still declining faster than the Ars could remedy and one then reaches a thresh-hold when it all falls apart and the system can not cope. SO your Ars was helping where it could - but not where the steroid was blocking it. That is my conclusion based on extensive allopathic research findings and my case experience. Had there not been that blockage you'd have had a chance to see the IL-2 effect of macrophages engulfing all the unwanted lymphoma cells like a lot of pacman invaders for example. Wonderful to see when it happens. YOu saw the opposite. That in my view is what was missing in your case.
A higher potency of Ars MIGHT have punched through in time - IF you had time. Lymphoma in dogs is notoriously fast and prednisone damage does not come right in under three months in my experience, even when I throw everything and the kitchen sink at it. And it needs all the ammo you can gather.
By the way - I am not commenting on the remedy selection as I did not have the full case as you did. The symptoms you listed did look like a possible fit for Ars. My main concern is that I never fit a remedy without matching the mentals as the MAIN selection rubrics - and I suspect (depending on my forgettery at 2am) you did not mention the mentals seen at the start of the case?
Those were my main comments. A few lesser ones: You said:
<<Other recent case changes also considered possible as a zoonotic issue.>>
Flu is not zoonotic. Animal flu viruses can not be contracted as pathogens by man or vice versa.
You said:
<<Suggested some Vitamin C and Oregano added to the dog's diet for now.>>
Yes on the C, no to the oregano as it destroys needed gut bacteria and is not checked out as safe from toxicity to dogs.
My experience is that the LEAST toxic substance added to the regime in an immune compromise or viral case, will give the disease an edge. The opposite is also true - namely that an increase in nontoxic antioxidants is very beneficial.
For dogs, safe antioxidant items are genuine cane berries, spinach and cooked pumpkin, along with Vit C, Vit E (which is anti-cancer by the way), and alpha lipoic acid.
You said:
<<Treatment of the dog was basically done from a human prescribing perspective. Hind legs = legs; Front paws = hands, etc. I dunno what to prescribe for a tail, however! And it gets a little more tricky with goats, multiple stomachs, different metabolisms, horses, etc. >>
The human approach is the right one, and human repertories are the best to use in animal cases.
Tails are made up of skin, bones, spine, fur, ligaments, tendons, etc and there are plenty of appropriate rubrics to combine depending what is wrong.
Multiple stomachs - not a problem. It is digestion related.
Remember that homeopathy works at an energetic level, not needing absorption into a specific physiology - hence if the bee hitting your windshield feels bashed, it gets arnica to be able to fly away - same as if you FEEL that you bashed your knee or the elephant FEELS it's trunk got bashed or your dog's tail FEELS bashed. Note my emphasis on how it feels and on mentals in selecting a lymphoma remedy. That is paramount in animal (and human) remedy selection in my view.
To know if a remedy is truly working - your Ars here - is also IMO mentals-dependent. In my immune compromise cases, I look for mental improvement to know whether the physicals may follow.
SO for example a dog case I had who was miserable before remedy for cancer, and after remedy he wanted to eat and later walk instead of being carried - that was a GREAT sign that it was the right remedy.
I hope my comments might be of use.
Namaste,
Irene
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
Science? Indeed, it is always possible to puch holes everywhere, that is just the reason why I prefer to keep the allopathic treatment explanatoins out of the debate on how to improve our homeopathic prescriptions. There is always possibility to discuss 'scientific' opinions and views, we can usually agre on tendencies though.
You are both right saying that steroids make it much more difficult (impossible? don't think so) to treat patients. More difficult means we should improve our technique rather than lament about patients having recieved steroids (and vaccines).
That is the point I am trying to defend here.
We have to embrace all the new things homeopathy has brought forward in the last few years: the work of the likes of Sankaran, Masi, Scholten, Brunson, Klein, Mangliavore, and many more. What they do is push our pallet of prescription/remedy beyond what has been done before with the aim of treating all these patients which are so suppressed or have such severe diseases.
If we truly embrace homeopathy, we cannot treat all patients that have recieved allopathic treatments as being in the same boat: will they not each respond in a slight different way and if we can recognise this slight difference it will lead us to a very individual prescription.....? Just some thoughts.
Edward
edward
homeopathy for the patient behind the symptoms.
edward@debeukelaer.fslife.co.uk
I would like to respond to your comments, and will quote yours for clarity in <<>>:
<<Science? Indeed, it is always possible to puch holes everywhere, that is just the reason why I prefer to keep the allopathic treatment explanatoins out of the debate on how to improve our homeopathic prescriptions.>>
I confess I see it more the way Hahnemann did in the Organon - namely that we need to know about and remove "exciting causes" - and these days the exciting causes definitely include such things as vaccines and steroid drugs among others. In addition Hahnemann also advises us to remove any impediments to cure, and that includes damage done by allopathic drugs and vaccines.
To remove that damage, we need to understand what it is by understanding what the allopathic drugs do and which constitutes impediment to cure. In fact my own work in this area is exactly what has led to my increased success in immune compromise diseases in animals. Without this understanding the success rate for homeopathy with FIP was the same as the allopathic rate, namely zero per cent. In fact you will find many a homeopathy text which recommends one "try Apis for FIP" but with no discussion at all as there are no cured cases with Apis.
Indeed APIS would be the logical choice in many FIP cases without considering the allopathic damage isues that are behind almost all (99%) of the FIP cases. Yet this (or any other) remedy selected on visible symptoms alone has a record of zero effetiveness per my extensive search for any other successes in FIP as a typical immune compromise illness. Homeopaths have not felt bad about this as the allopathic success rate is also zero. I do not accept that attitude however - we need to more.
My finding thus is that it is only when you add in the understanding of what the immune system is doing in an immune compromise disease, that you can KNOW the right rubrics to add to those which display the individual patient's response to the disease. It needs BOTH of those aspects, for correct selection of a matching individual homeopathic remedy in an immune compromised illness. So understanding allopathy may be unpopular withy homeopaths - but it is the way to success - and it follows the Organon basic rules and guidelines to remove exciting cause and to take away impediments to healing.
I see no excuse for wandering about with blinkers on to pretend we do not need to know what the immune system is doing, when we are working to heal form an immune compromise illness. I actually feel lucky that allopathy has done all the research for me on whatg is happening in the immune system.
There seems to me a danger here among homeopaths. they are not properly differentiating betwen good and useful information about the body - and what they are calling "allopathy".
I advocate the use of the former - the good information - and NOT the use of the latter - namely suppressive drugs. After all, the main difference between allopathy and homeopathy is nothing to do with p0hysiology and everything to do with choicfe of medicine.
So using physiology information discovered by humans who happen to also be allopaths, does not taint the information in any way and no homeopath should be afraid to use such information fully - just the opposite.,
"Allo" means opposite or contrary - and refers ONLY to suppressive drugs - which are nowhere being advocated for use by homeopaths. Any fear of allopathy information in use by a homeopath other than that - is totally misplaced.
Homeopathy can only benefit from all the allopathic research which explains to us what kinds of impediments and exciting causes we are up against and what they do internally, so that our remedies and supportive approaches can undo t6hose impediments and causes.
The immune system symptoms ARE present in immune compromise diseases - and indeed if you sit about waiting long enough - they will come to the surface and be visible at skin level - but ONLY after they have killed the animal internally.
By then the case is lost (as we saw also in the one just presented.)
Instead we can save lives and reduce suffering (as in Aph 1 and 2) by using the knowledge that allopathy provides for us in their research - is like a homeopathic X-ray or MRI or blood test. It allows us to look internally at what symptoms are there, so as to know what the exciting causes are and what the impediments to healing are. Those symptoms ARE there, that is the point. And in animals they - like blood tests - tell us a lot that can be used in remedy selection.
They are not symptoms "missing" from the case, just because they are too much below the skin to see. Addressing them in remedy selection as PART of the selection process, leads to a remedy that has a far higher success rate of health instead of death. Without those symptoms, the remedy selection is skewed by lack of the MOST relevant disease symptoms. In immune compromise cases, the immune system symptoms are indeed the most relevant physical ones.
<<You are both right saying that steroids make it much more difficult (impossible? don't think so) to treat patients. >>
Impossible? Well no but I have statistically significant statistics on this. Of 500 cases only ONE regained health after use of prednisone.
How is that lousy percentage rate acceptable?
By contrast, for those not on prednisone, 50% regained health.
SO..... what excuse is there not to lament a LOT about the prednisone? It is a direct death sentence and I find that advising vets to stop using it, has indeed saved lives among vets of MY clients.
<<More difficult means we should improve our technique rather than lament about patients having recieved steroids (and vaccines).
That is the point I am trying to defend here.>>
Based on my experience I find that an indefensible stance to take. How do you justify it? We have every reason and right to inform vets that we find the prednisone to be a death sentence where 50% life can be had instead. I would see it as unethical to remain silent about that.
<<We have to embrace all the new things homeopathy has brought forward in the last few years>>
Yes but that includes work such as mine described here.
It took me some hundreds of cases to figure this out - it's relevant to share is it not?
Why would I leave out the vets in understanding the damage of prednisone when they are the ones administering it?
There are reasons we only drive on one side the road at a time - and they are that death rates go up if we do not.
I see no difference in principle here.
<<If we truly embrace homeopathy, we cannot treat all patients that have recieved allopathic treatments as being in the same boat>>
I see no case where that was done or suggested?
What did I miss?
What has been advocated is that we do no pretend blindness to relevant symptoms as a relevant PART of the individualized remedy selection process, and also in accordance with the Organon, towards removal of obstacles to cure and/or removal of exciting causes.
That is my view. Correct me if I am wrong - I am perceiving what looks like an "allergy" (???) to useful and life saving allopathic research information? It is being advocated that we ignore it, pretend it does not exist and erect a wall behind which to work?
If so (scary thought) - Why?
As long as we use all the good information we find (wherever we find it) to practice individualized homeopathy and not to practice (suppressive) allopathy - keeping to the principles such as those to which I alluded - I feel we only stand to gain by the billions of dollars spent on scientific research. So - Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater:-)
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
Thanks so much for giving me all your feedback. Between you and Edward, this is turning into a very productive thread with many new things for me to think about!
Going to reply inside your text below in order not to miss anything:
Originally posted by furryboots
Dear Doc Quack,
I'm a new member here, a veterinary homeopath by profession and also a tutor of advanced veterinary homeopathy with BIH. I'd be happy to add some comments to your Lab case. I also wish to commend you and thank you for the details on a case that turned out less than perfectly, thus one from which to learn.
** Aw shucks.
It is my belief that animals such as this lab have a life path to teach us lessons we need to know - at a sad cost to those affected by the loss - but with great potential to help others in future.
** Oh, he was a sweet dog. I only met him once, but much the nice doggy, as they all are.
Most of my work is with immune compromise illnesses, mainly in cats, but also some cases in dogs and other species. I have handled for example more than 500 cases of FIP in cats
** For those like me who are unfamiliar with the viral condition:
** Ooooooh, before getting into the details of this, I would love to invite you over to my Biological Warfare Defense thread and discussion with Dr. Kaviraj.
** Dr. Kaviraj is out there in U.K. with Edward. He has spent 30 years practicing rapid Kentian-style prescribing for over 1.5 million patients, in his estimate -- many of which were epidemic cases. I'm giving him sort of a quasi-homeopath in the hot seat interview as his experience pertains to my own research and things proposed to DoD for city defense. That number of patients for a single physician sounds impossible the way we normally practice slow-poke homeopathy, but my professor had a story to tell about homeopaths in India like this. The sickly poor are often lined up hundreds long daily to see the doctor. One doc and some assistants tend to them all. Just rapid fire homeopathy. "What's bothering you? Okay. Take some Carbo Veg. Next!" The bulk do well on his single dose prescriptions. Some are cycled back for redose or set aside for deeper study. Not your average clinical operations in decadent society, but needed out there, and exactly how homeopaths will have to practice in the field among the future's pandemics. As I see it, you have 500 animal test cases -- where Placebo Effect is impossible to argue; Each related to compromised immunity (HIV, Hep, and other acute to chronic viral stories); Each having something to teach us about the treatment of acute to chronic virii in humans; And probably things you might learn for your cats from the thread, Dr. Kaviraji, or the work of future others on the thread. I hope you stop by!
, and mention this for a specific reason to do with your case here: The common factor which is so disastrous is the prednisone involvement. It is my impression that allopaths throw prednisone at anything they do not know how to fix - but unfortunately it is like a brick wall to also prevent homeopathy from having access...
** I have not personally seen the prednisone brick wall in animals yet, since most my livestock are organic. My dog cases are here and there. A few have had Pred in the system. One old dog I lost died very peacefully under Ars. Just didn't wake up one day. Her owner was very happy with both the Ars and the Pred. It wasn't a case that I followed closely, so I don't know about when or exactly how much Pred was cut out or mixed with the Ars. I can find out, though.
** Prednisone has also come up in relation to my own case of Adrenal Fatigue/ Exhaustion; formerly down to Stage 3 or so and now still around Stage 1 or less. Before into homeopathy, I used to belong to a group of adrenal fatigue people. Just about every one of them was with the allopaths in some form. Typical of support groups, they're mostly looking for shoulders to cry on, to share allopathic drug info, to swap herbal notes. Spooky, creepy, voodoo, bogus, hokus pokus homeopathy doesn't interest them much. But, I was just starting out in it. My own adrenal condition had been far worse than any of them, and, at the time I knew them, I sadly found myself doing far better than all of them under just naturopathy. A great many of them had Prednisone or routine cortisol supplement in the picture. Only a few of them were really versed in the complexities of "feedback", the Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Adrenal axis, etc. Bottom line: stay too long feeding the adrenals rather than stimulating them to heal, and they become like dependent children and shut down all the more.
** The allopaths would have loved to put me on Pred, but, thanks to that hurting bunch, I know to stay away. In fact, I was on a supplement called Adrenal Complex by Tyler, Inc. for a long time. I finally weaned off that, but find that it is almost a softer form of Pred. It's critical to keeping you strong when a bad flu is weakening you and threatening your life. Critical to pulling out of crash. I still keep a supply always, and another backup supply. And sometimes I cheat with popping a pill here and there when adrenally sapped and needing to be normal again for a time. Usually, without, I'm operating sub-normal adrenally. Same for with my thyroid at the moment. Some of my own case details are noted on this thread: http://hpathy.com/homeopathyforums/forum_posts.asp?TID=5790 and here: http://excalibur.110mb.com/hcases.html (Somewhat outdated, though. I haven't paid much attention to my own case for months, often trying to still see myself as just dandy.) So, I'm sort of a case of recovery from quasi-Pred; More gentle, natural, quasi-Pred. Mostly just Vitamin C, A, B-5, Licorice, Ginseng, and Bovine Adrenal Extract (glandular therapy). I don't like to use the supplements long-term because they'll keep you strong, but also you crash harder without them. I've used also some Pregnenlone in adrenal support, and that helps, but it seems to inflame my prostate, so I don't like that. Generally, I prefer some Reishi/Ginseng tea now and then; Teas rotated. Nothing taken too much for too long.
** For your own research, I'd also like to mention to you the remarkable story of a naturopath named Jeremy Rubin, N.D. You can find his books and products with The Vitamin Shoppe. They were giving out one of his books free years ago, and it's an incredible story. Patient Heal Thyself was his first book. He suffered Chrones and Candida. Was real bad off. Prednisone loaded, too. Not quasi-Pred. And, here's the observation I wanted to note for you which might be useful for your research: Dr. Rubin reports that he was doing horribly on everything until one day his father sent him a bag of dirt to eat. Special dirt. Bacterially ridden/ probiotic dirt. He was sick a bit after, I think. Then, from there he made his recovery and the whole thing got him thinking about probiotics whereby he ate better, ate Kosher, did many things, opened his company, got married, etc, etc. Sometimes the whole thing seems almost Tom Vu in classic infomercial style, but I've read his first book and it's too much detail and too much from the heart for huckster stuff. His story is for real. Anyhow, I just wanted to note that priobiotic recovery of the guts alongside vitality boost among one human recovery from Pred that I know about. Might be useful in saving some kitties so they can go off and murder mice?
As for me, I have fallen out of my good adrenal rebuilding habits and reached a stable / more healed level where I can stay up late reading this and replying at almost 1 a.m. whereby tomorrow I will only be slightly dizzy, having less stamina, and with slightly lower BP. I can stay up late like this or even not sleep at all for a day or two, and it won't weaken me critically for about a week or two of complete abuse. By comparison, just one night up late like this when my adrenals were sapped, and I'd be just a couple days away from Stage 3 Adrenal Failure conditions; Stage 4 is where the heart stops. Awful feeling. Cold all over. Cold hands, feet. BP so low. Pulse low. Shock-like feeling. Heaviness like you weigh a ton. You try to get up and walk to the kitchen to make something to eat while weak, and you fall on the floor dizzy. General malaise I can't really articulate, but these dying dogs know the feeling usually about a day or so before their owners decide to put them down out of mercy or they drop dead naturally. It's a walk very close to death.
Anyhow, I can abuse myself like this for a whole nerdy month before I get like that again! And that's pretty good recovery. It's taken me 6 years to rebuild to this and I'm not cured or even adrenally normal, but I'm doing so much better than those people still on Pred. Most are shut-ins. They don't leave their homes. Others live normally for a time, but they die off from other things. Who knows how it will go with me, but I will never let them give me Pred unless I'm unconscious and can't walk out!
You spotted the other toxic issues of vaccines and Advantage - but based on those 500 cases, nothing causes a worse prognosis than the presence of prednisone in an immune compromised case. This is because prednisone destroys the thymus activity needed to produce Th-1 cytokines such as anti-cancer cytokines. It is, in my experience (- those 500 cases -) so powerful at Th-1 cytokine suppression, that it is VERY difficult to break through it with homeopathy, and yet that is what has to happen to enable the body to rebuild health using homeopathy. Every chronic disease has various cytokines out of balance, (different ratios of incorrect cytokine levels for each illness - it is a main emphasis of current immunology research) and restoration of health can only happen once they are back in balance. Prednisone blocks this from happening. Homeopathy works efficiently only after that blockage is removed. Until then you can use homeopathy to do everything except fix the immune system and whatever it needs to do - so an immune compromise illness will not come right that way. You can get a false sense of improvement initially in presence of prednisone - a cruel trick as it is a false superficial view. The damage is ongoing "under" that prednisone veil and it will come to the fore and expose the disaster that was ongoing beneath - namely in the cytokine realms of the immune system.
So one suggestion I will make is that in future you will see prednisone as the death sentence it is, and do everything possible to reverse that position in the animal. Fast! Some options I suggest: Introduce Moducare as a food supplement. It is plant sterols and sterolins in a specific ratio which, as research shows, helps the immune system restore Th-1 actvity. Get rid of the prednisone. If it has only been given a short while it can be stopped without tapering to help speed the removal of deadly damage, provided the adrenals are supported with the right nutrients namely (for 100 lbs of animal and in proportion for other weights): Pantothenic acid 1000 mg a day Ascorbic acid or ascorbyl palmitate (I prefer the former which is more appropriate for redox reactions to detoxify) - ideally intravenously, but most USA vets are unfamiliar with that therapy. Use every 4 hours to bowel tolerance by mouth. It may need around 10,000 mg a day or more. Vit B6 100mg a day B-50 tablet (50mg each of the majority of the B vitamins)
If there has been longterm prednisone like 18 yrs of it I had in one case, wonder the cat was still alive - then you do have to taper despite the supporting vitamins as there is no leftover adrenal function to speak of.
If you can find it use sarcode Adrenal 4C to stimulate. I also use Prednisone 30C to help undo damage. (Simillimum in New Zealand has it)
SO in my opinion and experience, and based on allopathic research showing what harm it does to Th-1 cytokine production - prednisone is the MAIN reason you lost the dog case.
** Wow! Thank you for all this. Much to think about! Can you tell us more about your experiences with the Adrenal sarcode and Pred nosode? All this in cats? Are these wet or dry doses? Can you tell us a little more about especially the adrenal stimulation observations you've made? This is something I have written about in regard to treating epidemics. Lots have this homeopathy only view, but, in cases like myself -- or your cats -- where there is a kind of allopathic mechanical/ "surgical" damage to the body, like you, I find that a sort of allopathic "patch" is useful in supporting the homeopathy. They call this Mixopathy, of course. In my case, when a strong flu bug hits, it's always because I'm adrenal and Vitality worn down.
The two go hand in hand; Sapped adrenals = sapped vitality. Boost the adrenals, and you push out the flu like nothing. I do it all the time with or without homeopathy, often without since I don't like to interfere with my existing chronic remedy for a wee cold. There have been winter virii going around. People with strong adrenals all around me sick, but not me! Why? Because I jump on it. I can't afford to let it entrench. If I feel it, I move to Vitamin C. Sometimes, I'll take a capsule of Adrenal Complex. Anything to support the adrenals. That and I'll strengthen Chi a bit with hot water baths of the hand and feet more frequently. Bugs bounce off me like a bulletproof vest.
In fact, this issue of adrenal support for end stage cancer cases is something I have mentioned before with humans, and in this animal case, too. The truth is that I have been seeking strictly homeopathic data returned from dog cancer. I tried to avoid "Mixopathy" with this doggy as much as possible, but added the probiotic beef bones. I should have told them to do more for him, yes, but things were initially going well under homeopathy only. The importance of these support matters you mention doesn't really call out to you when the case is improving and, when it is worsening, it happens fast. Happened outside my view.
I appreciate your discussion of follow up issues that occur and your (IMO correct) assessment of them - but there is more to it. Vaccines are a secondary reason, also due to the known effects of damage to th-1 cytokines and the thymus. Soy food is another factor that damages Th-1 cytokines and thymus activity (also all well documented in allopathic research) - to predispose chronic disease, though it is not in all that many dog foods. It is still worth checking dog foods for canine food toxins in all dog cases. (Ask if you need a list)
** Do you have a list? I would love one!
After years of working on immune compromise cases, it is my opinion that prednisone should be banned in all cases except Addison's disease.
Nothing makes my heart sink like hearing the new case I take has been given this death sentence drug. I call it a death sentence drug because chronic disease moves SO fast in animals that there is not time to undo prednisone damage and allow homeopathy to work. The disease is rampant below that prednisone layer, and will kill the animal first. It is a race. Animal research shows that the thymus (where Th-1 cytokines originate) can be suppressed and damaged as much as 90% by a single steroid injection.
As you may know, animal vaccines also skew the immune system to the Th-2 side causing excess Th-2 cytokines and damaging the body's first line of defence using Th-1 cytokines. The result is a predisposition to all the Th-2 skewed diseases. (Examples are allergies, cancers, diabetes, and a host of others that are rife since vaccines were turned into a billion dollar industry just from pets). This Th-1 cytokine damage from vaccines is all very well documented in research in the USA National Library of Medicine, as is the prednisone damage. It is all allopathic research of course - but it is valid. The trick in homeopathy is to make use of this allopathic research knowledge to improve our chances with homeopathy.
It's not necessarily important for a homeopath to know what cytokines are high or low for a specific illness, except to know what to supplement. It is nearly always Th-1 cytokines that are not there to work properly. Lymnphoma involves cell death caused by lack of specific cytokines and a subset of these are involved in cell death in hepatoma type lesions (per Nov 2008 research they are IL-2, INF-gamma and IL-10). IL-2 and INF-gamma are Th-1 cytokines. IL-10 has regulating jobs between Th1 and Th2 and is also out of whack in the disease you handled. So with these not working, cell death would occur for the cells that can fight lymphoma. I mention this as while you were dosing Ars, these cytokines were still declining faster than the Ars could remedy and one then reaches a thresh-hold when it all falls apart and the system can not cope. SO your Ars was helping where it could - but not where the steroid was blocking it. That is my conclusion based on extensive allopathic research findings and my case experience. Had there not been that blockage you'd have had a chance to see the IL-2 effect of macrophages engulfing all the unwanted lymphoma cells like a lot of pacman invaders for example. Wonderful to see when it happens. YOu saw the opposite. That in my view is what was missing in your case.
** Have you seen any Canine or Feline Lymphoma cases reversed by homeopathy? I have no such data but would love to read from cases that worked. I have case data on humans, but not dogs or cats.
A higher potency of Ars MIGHT have punched through in time - IF you had time. Lymphoma in dogs is notoriously fast and prednisone damage does not come right in under three months in my experience, even when I throw everything and the kitchen sink at it. And it needs all the ammo you can gather.
By the way - I am not commenting on the remedy selection as I did not have the full case as you did. The symptoms you listed did look like a possible fit for Ars. My main concern is that I never fit a remedy without matching the mentals as the MAIN selection rubrics - and I suspect (depending on my forgettery at 2am) you did not mention the mentals seen at the start of the case?
** You know, come to think of it, I could have given the mentals a stronger focus. Should have. I know better, too. Top in the hierarchy of prescribing! And yet here, I let the owner tell me the dog was generally okay. I looked at his mentals in more of a physical light -- such as seeing lethargy, but not the depression -- while I guess you could say being human superior and doggy prejudice.
Do you have a list of animal observations at your end which you've related to their emotions I could review? Or rather, do you have some insights on this that we can't normally figure from the Materia Medica? Lethargy to depression....Hiding under the bed to what? Fear? Prefers isolation?.....Food aggression as what in human terms? For example, my Rottie die after allopathic surgery and he was oddly grumby in the last week -- actually snarled at me when hugging him. Then, on our last day together, I handed him a treat and he just dropped it on the floor with no interest. Totally unlike him. I thought he was depressed because "grounded" for having attacked a goat of mine. But, he wasn't feeling well even when he attacked the goat. Very subtle. Such a strong and vital dog that it seemed trivial; Seemed behavioral. I was busy tending to family in the hospital at the time.
Those were my main comments. A few lesser ones: You said:
<<Other recent case changes also considered possible as a zoonotic issue.>>
Flu is not zoonotic. Animal flu viruses can not be contracted as pathogens by man or vice versa.
Yes, I should have clarified that. "Flu" isn't technically zoonotic, but there are so many classes of virii that we laymen and even the allopaths often just credit to Flu -- while nobody really understands what germs people suffer -- that I just figure any strange sickeness passed from animal to human is some form of "Flu" or "bug" that is certainly zoonotic. The whole allopathic term there I suspect bogus anyhow. Probably anything and everything is zoonotic in a homeopathic light. I have two neighbors out here who picked up a "flu" bug from their dogs who sleep with them. Was it Influenza? Probably not. Probably something on the zoonotic lists, though.
You said:
<<Suggested some Vitamin C and Oregano added to the dog's diet for now.>>
Yes on the C, no to the oregano as it destroys needed gut bacteria and is not checked out as safe from toxicity to dogs.
Can you tell us more about that and your observations or any info on oregano to gut flora? I am especially interested since my gut flora has been trashed among a fight with Polysystemic Candida. I'm still trying to rebuild it. At the same time, Oregano tea is one of the strongest and best anti-fungals I have ever used for the bloodstream. The homeopaths in here can call me a Mixopath all they like, but Oregano gets that muck out of my blood. I had my best recovery on 3 cups per day of oregano tea + a diet of mostly salmon, rice, steamed veggies, red cabbage, nuts, etc. High dose acidophillus, olive oil, many things. In fact, if you look on that Multiple Myeloma case, you'll find some interesting Oregano periods surrounding her IgG declines.
I guess, my question on that part about "destroys gut bacteria" would be, which ones? The good? The bad? The good and the bad? We have so many thousands of strains. I don't have a Candida problem. What I suffer from still is more properly called "intestinal dysbiosis" with Non-Addison's Hypoadrenia due to adrenal damage likely also from the Candida. Candida is actually a dimorphic organism which transitions from yeast to fungi. There are about 80 or so strains. All that mixed with things like E.Coli, H.pylori, etc. It's more of a bacteria/yeast-fungi overgrowth with maybe even other kinds of parasites at work in there, too. Personally, I have found Oregano nothing but helpful. After extensive dosing with it and homeopathic polish up, the flora in my guts have been overall better than before. Something is still missing in recolonization of the guts, but, all in all, better after any anti-biotic effects of the oregano. It may be that Oregano's effect is strongly anti-fungal (about 100 times more so than Nystatin), but perhaps not as anti-bacterial? I don't know. Just wondering what else you know on it, as it sure would help me, too!
My experience is that the LEAST toxic substance added to the regime in an immune compromise or viral case, will give the disease an edge. The opposite is also true - namely that an increase in nontoxic antioxidants is very beneficial.
For dogs, safe antioxidant items are genuine cane berries, spinach and cooked pumpkin, along with Vit C, Vit E (which is anti-cancer by the way), and alpha lipoic acid.
You said:
<<Treatment of the dog was basically done from a human prescribing perspective. Hind legs = legs; Front paws = hands, etc. I dunno what to prescribe for a tail, however! And it gets a little more tricky with goats, multiple stomachs, different metabolisms, horses, etc. >>
The human approach is the right one, and human repertories are the best to use in animal cases.
Tails are made up of skin, bones, spine, fur, ligaments, tendons, etc and there are plenty of appropriate rubrics to combine depending what is wrong.
Multiple stomachs - not a problem. It is digestion related.
Remember that homeopathy works at an energetic level, not needing absorption into a specific physiology - hence if the bee hitting your windshield feels bashed, it gets arnica to be able to fly away - same as if you FEEL that you bashed your knee or the elephant FEELS it's trunk got bashed or your dog's tail FEELS bashed. Note my emphasis on how it feels and on mentals in selecting a lymphoma remedy. That is paramount in animal (and human) remedy selection in my view.
To know if a remedy is truly working - your Ars here - is also IMO mentals-dependent. In my immune compromise cases, I look for mental improvement to know whether the physicals may follow.
SO for example a dog case I had who was miserable before remedy for cancer, and after remedy he wanted to eat and later walk instead of being carried - that was a GREAT sign that it was the right remedy.
***Well, though I sort of subconsciously focused on the mentals there, we knew the Ars. was working well due to his overall vitality improvement, frisky nature returned, running, playful, eager to go on walks, happy again and the physiologic also had improved in regard to weight gain, swelling reduction, etc.
I hope my comments might be of use.
** Very much so. If I seem to be getting terse, it is only because I am starting to nod off to sleep but want to finish this reply tonight.
Thanks again for the comments, Edward. I want to read more from Masi still.
Irene, I guess I'm finished replying now. Thank you again. Nice to meet you! You live in the town where I was born, by the way! I was a Strategic Air Command baby. On the day I was born, they broadcast my name into the sky while VC commies were being bombed by daddy and pals! Thus, "Death to Commies!" is my birthname, I like to say.
Here, another striking/ unusual symptom of great significance was reported to me which didn't come out in the earlier interview: Odd stool pattern always in 3's. First one out always hard. Then, softer. Then runny. Average poop normal. First one a sign of constipation. Last one as diarrhea. Middle/ average one normal. Points to a daily metabolic cycle out of whack. Digestive disorder still present beneath any improvement, and this was the dog's pattern for most of his life (a chronic, constitutional, striking/ unusual Kentian-like issue of great importance to consider in prescribing). Worse in favor of diarrhea with excitement.
Doc, that sounds like Pulsatilla -------------------------- Doc, Have you heard about Grimmer? Kent student and very good homeopath. I have some info of his on Cancer cases. He was into using the Cadmium salts and had great success with them. -----------------------
DocQuack wrote:
Holy Cow! Puls. Thank you.
That may very well have been the
remedy most needed in later stages. The dog had that "no two stools
alike" issue all his life, so it was something chronic constitutional.
Probably should have taken highest priority in symptom prescribing as
major sapper of the vital economy! At the same time Ars better matched
the whole. What would do in such a case? Had I paid closer
attention to that one -- and I don't know why I didn't -- probably I
would have at least rotated them both together, trying one first,
seeing how it goes, and then moving to the other. What would you do?
I was not suggesting that your work is useless. It would be very interesting to see some mor of your cases published. I am sure we can learn from them.
The point I am making is trying to keep a distinction between conventional medicine (= not neccesary allopathy) and homeopathy;
1) Conventional medicine is based on the concept of trying to scientificty understand the disease, explain the disease end then find a way based on this knowledge decide how to treat the case. I feel that, according to your previous post, that is partly what you are doing/suggesting
2) Homeopathy does not spend time explaining the disease from a scientific pov (although scientific info can be interesting in deciding whether a symptom is unusual or normal for the disease; for symptoms selection): homeopathy is interested in the personal experience of the patient in relation to his diseas or state or life. It is this subjective/personal quality of the patient we have to try and percieve to find what remedy will likely bring overal relief.
In my humble opinion I think you are on the fence between the two. That is fine with me, certainly if there are many patients that benefit. I would not like to discourage you.
The purpose of the discussion is somewhat theoretic but still very relevant because at some point we have to explain to the community what we doe are: If we propose a form of conventional medicine using homeopathic remedies, I think we will have a bigger fight on our hands than if we can propose a way of healing which uses another mechanism. And can prove that this other way is effective as well
I do agree that this will demand great efforts from those who want to practice homeopathy to learn to adapt this view but I am sure it will be for the benefit of many.
Please don't stop your work because the 'perfect' homeopathy I am talking about is not so easy available and your work will certainly fill in an inportant gap.
I am sure that if our prescriptions become even more acurate, we will work around many 'obstacles to cure'.
I have seen cases that did very well on homeopathy after preds etc treatment and vaccines all over the place and did not die. OK, they were not that immunosuppresive as your patients but still when you blame preds is this for any type of disease or prescription? I think it is important to accuse in specifics: for instance: 'Preds given to immunosuppressed cats reduce their chances of being helped with homeopathy according to the statistics and treatment etc etc etc' I would be perfectly happy whch such a statement that come up with 'scientific' data.
I won't throw out conventional science, it can be very helpful.
I would like you to explain more clearly how you can use data on the immune system as homeopathic symptoms (or did I understand this wrong?)
btw, Apis for FIP? What has that to do with homeopathy? Sure you don't treat FIP, you treat a patient who expresses FIP,. If this expression is in harmony with the remedy Apis it may be the patient's remedy to treat his/her disease. The 'this remedy' for 'that disease', never really works for homeopathy. That is what I am trying to explain here.
Edward
edward
homeopathy for the patient behind the symptoms.
edward@debeukelaer.fslife.co.uk
Going off on a tangent here. Have you reviewed Dr. Kumar's work on the identification of homeopathic remedies using temperature signatures? He finds the ability to distinguish between remedies, and to determine which remedy was used in the patient. I believe such research holds tremendous utility for future Vet homeopathy, since animals cannot speak to us very well. I have often thought vets like you both out to be gathering research data on Dr. Kumar's work by sticking at least a temperature probe up each doggy's but with each visit --- creating a tremendous data archive for homeopathy. Illness conditions better mapped. Remedy applications better mapped. All visible data. You might want to exchange with Dr. Kumar sometime. I believe he's left his research position in India to pursue more full-time research into the subject, and homeopaths like you both could really help him while perhaps his tools can help improve your practice.
A sister setup along a different path and with instructions on how you can set that gear up for measuring animals is found here. Either method helps you determine the illness signature of the animal -- which should show up in greater totality by these means than you'll ever be able to find in Boenighaussen style -- while, at the same time, a Kentian style with the animals usually narrows down to the same Boenighaussen style remedy selection when done right. Totality with considerations (Boenighaussen) often equating to the same remedy as a strict consideration of the "striking & unusual" with less total considerations (Kent). Not a whole lot of practical utility for the clinician who does homeopathy well, but is just gear that can be used to augment your senses and other labs; Gear that helps display the power of remedies and the signature of disease; Things that better prove homeopathy. I believe such technology useful to cases where the symptoms are not so easy to see -- such as with the unconscious, the comatose, the dying, and the very messy cases.
I do not mind what anyone thinks of my work - that is their opinion. What I care about is doing the best for the animal clients - in this case specifically those with an immune compromise disease - and if possible sharing my findings so that others may discuss them and possibly benefit.
<< It would be very interesting to see some mor of your cases published. I am sure we can learn from them.>>
I hope to have a book out some time but it is slow with my own immune compromise illness in the way.
<<The point I am making is trying to keep a distinction between conventional medicine (= not neccesary allopathy) and homeopathy>>
I regret I see no need to address this - surely every homeopath here has read the difference from Hippocrates, Stahl, Paracelsus, Hahnemann and every other person who describes the difference between health care by contraries (allopathy) and health care by similars (homeopathy). NOBODY here was advocating health care using contraries. We all use health care by similars, individually matched to the client or client's animal.
<<1) Conventional medicine is based on the concept of trying to scientificty understand the disease, explain the disease end then find a way based on this knowledge decide how to treat the case. I feel that, according to your previous post, that is partly what you are doing/suggesting>>
I do not see how it is relevant (especially here) how different conventional approaches decide to use contraries, in your view. To me it is only relevant that they DO use contraries, and that we do not. Why they use contraries is irrelevant. The fact that they do IS relevant as we get to undo the harm done.
You say:
<<2) Homeopathy does not spend time explaining the disease from a scientific pov >>
Here you speak for yourself. Hahnemann did explain it as best he could from a scientific point of view, he also advocated removing exciting causes (which can only be done if you know what they are) and he also advocated removing obstacles to cure (which also requires knowledge of what constitutes an obstacle). My post indeed pointed out those factors.
So YOUR idea of a definition of homeopathy here, does not agree with any of that.
<<In my humble opinion I think you are on the fence between the two. >>
Well as I said before, your opinion is fine to hold, but that does not make it true of my approach based on Hahnemann's principles.
Hmmm... A wheelchair perched on the fence... interesting concept....
<<That is fine with me, certainly if there are many patients that benefit. I would not like to discourage you.>>
Why would you presume to be in a position to even decide whether or not to "discourage" me?
That is indeed arrogant.
Please let us stick to discussion of homeopathy principles here. I will respond in future only to arguments based on the principles in the Organon, which I use to get results. I am sorry if you do not like them.
<<The purpose of the discussion is somewhat theoretic but still very relevant because at some point we have to explain to the community what we doe are>>
I am always ready to explain to the public or the homeopathic community how I use the Organon principles. YOU chose to ignore those principles in my post and my use of them. That is YOUR personal decision.
That does not make your lack of their use in the discussion, into my problem.
<<If we propose a form of conventional medicine using homeopathic remedies,>>
Who is we? Yo do speak for yourself here.
I proposed no such thing.
With respect - why are you ignoring the Organon principles involved here and inventing your own?
As I explained in my post, I use the principles in the Organon and I am fully ready to discuss them with anyone, inside or outside the homeopathic community. Apparently you are not - but that is not my shortcoming.
Knowing and understanding the Homeopathy principles so well explained in the Organon is basic to our health care profession. We ALL need to know them and be able to argue them - with anyone! Otherwise how do we call ourselves professionals?
Of course that is just MY opinion - and one I teach to my students.
You said:
<<Please don't stop your work ..........
Here we go with the arrogance again.
It is not your place to tell me whether or not to stop my professional work - my credentials are clearly visible on my posts. I'm not your student or some such.
Either present your own work, or learn from mine - or ignore mine. But you are not in a position to advise professional homeopaths what to work on!
<<because the 'perfect' homeopathy I am talking about>>
I hope you are not always so arrogant - maybe you got out on the wrong side of the bed today? Apparently you feel that you alone know the perfect homeopathy?
I think not.
You seem unable to respond on a discussion of Organon principles of practice today.
Let's please get back to homeopathy and stay there.
<<I have seen cases that did very well on homeopathy after preds etc treatment and vaccines
So have I, but not late stage immune compromise cases in cats or dogs as I was writing about. Those 500 plus cases all came my way after the veterinarian said there was no hope and euthanasia should be immediate.
Edward,iIf you have such a late stage immune compromise cat or dog case to present, that came right after prednisone and vaccines - I'd love to read it and learn from it.
You next suggested my data was not presented in context - but since you yourself respond that they were immune compromise animal cases - and yours are not - then apparently that criticism of yours is spurious.
<<I would like you to explain more clearly how you can use data on the immune system as homeopathic symptoms (or did I understand this wrong?)>>
That is a valid question.
...also an involved topic but I'll try a brief example or two to illustrate:
In animal work, there is much one can learn from the animal on the mental symptoms, which are IMO the most important ones. These can be determined using differences in behavior from the animal's innate constitutional type (ICT for short - the type it is born with) , and also in absence of ICT knowledge, one can use differences from the normal behavior for that animal.
The problem arises that these different behaviors may have too many potential remedies that fit them - and one needs a lot more to be sure of a simillimum. In immune compromise diseases, there are not usually any or many externally visible symptoms, so that one needs to use the internal chemistry in conjunction with the behavioral changes (and ICT if possible) to decide which of the remedies from mentals, may be more relevant.
We can do that because the internal chemistry has known behavioral or other bodily changes associated with it. For example, a low level of Interleukin-2
causes loss of muscle either side the backbone - whereas a general loss of weight is more uniform. The reason is that the metabolism is using muscle for fuel because it can not metabolise the food that IS being eaten.
The backbone muscle loss is very uncomfortable compared with general weight loss, and leads to the animal avoiding contact and it will appear less sociable and will hide from close company lest they do the usual contact loving activities that now are not enjoyable.
You can add to the internal indicators by also doing lab tests for things like liver enzymes and kidney values and blood values - and in this way you can know whether the animal has inflamed organs that need nutritional support, or anemia and what type, or whether detoxification is needed (common due to toxins in carnivore food) and of course all are for inclusion in repertorizing.
Again - there is a connection between cytokine levels and the type of anemia. So if there is known to be Th-2 skewing AND low IL-2, AND anemia, for example, then you also know the bone marrow is not going to make red cells. This is very relevant in remedy selection and will point to remedies like Plumbum and others which can overcome nonregenerative erythrolysis, and steer you away from those that are great for anemia but not if it is nonregenerative.
Another example: If you know that Interferon is a bit low but IL2 & IL10 are high, and the other symptoms point to immune compromise, then you also know that the disease will be hiding behind marasmus rather than bloated abdomen, but DOES involve damage to make blood vessels leaky. This will lead to remedies including the blood vessel damage when without that blood vessel damage knowledge you'd choose a totally different remedy, and the animal would die from unseen loss of blood plasma, leaked into the abdomen from blood vessels when the antibodies attack blood vessel walls, but then excreted invisibly. You would not know why you lost the case.
It is ONLY after understanding the actual disease process properly that one can know enough about these complex immune compromise diseases to repertorize them with confidence.
This is not allopathy. This is complex homeopathy.
It would only be allopathy if I chose an allopathic drug instead of using the information for repertorizing in the classic manner. This is just using the obvious pathology information that tells one what is happening in the disease.
We do that for simple illnesses all the time. This is just the same thing but more involved as the symptoms are those of the immune system and are not directly visible.
Before this was done - NOBODY I can find, got a cure of FIP for example.
Modern allopathy has caused the development of many new immune compromise diseases - and FIP is one of those. It is more common every day - but used to be extremely rare. Cat shelters are practically FIP factories for example - except those using homeoprophylaxis of course. FIP is triggered by allpathic vaccines and drugs, and would almost not exist without them. As allopathy develops new and worse toxic chemicals to inject into animals, so we homeopaths need to develop new ways to counter them - starting by understanding what they do to the animal.
By the way - Here is my article on FIP in Hpathy last year:
So I maintain my point of view - that there is no such thing as bad information - and that as long as the information is valid, and useful, it is good stuff for a homeopath no matter who discovered the information.
If Edward wants to do all his own investigations and scientific research for homeopaths to use - more power to him - but as long as I can find huge amounts of valuable information in research papers in the National Library of Medicine - I shall be using it the best way I can, along with the principles of homeopathy, and thanking the researchers mentally for their help in improving my results with homeopathy.
The more I know from those sources, and the better I can apply it as a homeopath, the less chance of allopathic "contraries" drugs getting into animals as a result of lack of knowledge on my part.
Namaste,
Irene
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
The Fibonacci series remedies are available with special order from Simillimum in New Zealand, and the method plus about 30 cases using them, was presented in Hpathy by Dr Joe Rozencwajg recently. Had you read that?
He wrote a booklet on it which he has made available to all, no copyright as long as it is copied in toto. You can download for free here:
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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