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    Posted: 07 Aug. 09 at 12:23
Dear Tracy,Kaviraj
My reply to posting homeopathic remedies to antidote toxic vaccines is NOT only focused on this new drama Hoax! (Swineflu 2009 vaccine)
 But regards "all"the  toxic vaccines ever given.
 
In the military,To babies 3 months old,to college students,health care workers,long distance travelers......etc.Angry
I see in my practice so many people that have side effects from getting a vaccine,its abnormal!!!! Just shocking.Iatrogenic diseases engulf our health system due to allopathic prescription meds and vaccinations.Confused
The straw that broke the camel's back (A saying in the US) is all this nonsense about the new swine flu vaccine out in sept/oct.
 
Aug 2009 Ezine Wait for my article- More on this.
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Yes Gina, and Tracy, and of course everyone else,
 
Vaccinosis is the greatest cause of disease on the planet and they are in the process of making 200 more.......OuchOuchConfusedConfusedDeadCryDeadCryAngryThumbs Down
 
Imagine, 200 different shots before you are ten years old - if you get that far in life. AngryConfusedCensored
The Mahabharata - the great Indian epic - predicted that in this day and age people will give birth at 9 years of age and be very, very old by the time they reach 30.
Big pharma Pig Unhappy Dead will make sure that prediction for our times will come true. So many vaccines will prematurely age the people and speed up sexual maturity, to at least maintain the species.
 
The insanity of it all is mind-boggling.
 
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I just received an e-mail from an Internet friend who lives in Switzerland, but is currently visiting in Belgium with her young 5-year old daughter.  I’d written to her recently and suggested that she pick up some Eupatorium-perf 30C since it appeared to be one of the more effective remedies for this swine flu at the moment.  (She already has some other good remedies commonly used for various flus.)

 

She wrote:

Tracy, I've been thinking about you and thanking you in these last days because I think we both [she and her daughter] got the H1N1!!

 

“Nothing too serious for the moment….. The main remedy IS Eupatorium perf C30!!!!”

 

No way to know what type of flu this is, but good to know of another current instance where Eupatorium-perf 30C seems to work.  Also, it will be interesting to see if a different remedy is needed at a later point in the illness.  I hope she can stay in touch.

 

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Too bad nothing like this could happen in the USA today.....

Homeopaths come ahead to prevent Swine Flu

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MUMBAI: With cases of Swine Flu (H1N1) increasing by the hour, the practicing homeopaths of Maharashtra have offered their services in combating the disease.

 
“We cannot lower our guard and there is need for active preventive medication which homeopathy offers,” says Prof Dr Anwar Amir, MD and professor of homeopathy of Maharashtra University of Health Sciences, who is Secretary General of Homeopathy Post Graduate Association. While in Mumbai, they are opening some centres by this evening, they are also in touch with their counterparts in Pune.
 

Dr Amir said that they have already communicated to Union Health Ministry, Maharashtra Government’s health department and BrihanMumbai Municipal Corporation (BMC) offering their help.

“There is lot of fear and anxiety among the general public about the disease,” he said, adding that there was no proper vaccination today as far as this disease was concerned. He also said that there is no preventive or curative treatment in allopathic science and since we have alternative available here in form of homeopathy, it should be tried.

 
He pointed out the use of homeopathy to combat epidemic diseases are known – and it has been successfully used to counter cholera and plague in the earlier days and in recent times Japanese encephalitis in Andhra Pradesh with remarkable success. Apart from this excellent results have been obtained in prevention of malaria, conjunctivitis, bird flu, chikangunya and leptospirosis and other viral diseases through homeopathy.   “We believe in taking preventive measures and homeopathy has lot to offer in preventive epidemic and pandemics and this aspect of homeopathy has been neglected to a great extent,” he said – adding that as of now there is no allopathic treatment of this viral disease. He requested government authorities to actively consider homeopathy in countering such situations.
 

He said that to tackle these kind of diseases, he suggested the use of medicines like arsemicum album and influenzium. “Under the current scenario, we need to be alert and hence we are offering our services to the government,” Dr Amir added. 

http://www.sakaaltimes.com/2009/08/06233525/Homeopaths-come-ahead-to-preve.html

 

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Well done Dr Amir to take a bold step to offer the services of Homeopathy and homeopaths to be prepared and come to the rescue against the Swine Flu;Accept my heartiest congratulations;

Some time back Cuba also tackled an epidemic (not swine flu) and overcame the challenge with grace.,by researching and manufacturing their own Homeopathic nosode..They held a international seminar in Havana,this news was also posted on this Forum;;;;This was against all odds that they face in their country.When there is a will there is away;;

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Hi Tracy,

I'm glad to hear that the Eup-per has worked for you. In the Spring, I was the one who'd posted that it was the remedy that helped my daughter and had seemed to be the indicated one for my son's girlfriend's flu. During that time, I saw a number of patients who needed Eup-per or Nux-v. The ones with the weird, very sensitive skin symptoms seemed more often to need Nux-v.

Here's an account of my youngest daughter's bout with the flu, recently, that I hope will give a clear picture of symptoms. In our area (San Diego, California, right across the border from Mexico), they are saying that the seasonal flu is no longer active, so they are presuming that any cases of flu are the swine flu, and not even bothering to test anymore.

Female, age 9—Acute Flu—Wednesday, July 15, 2009

Slow to Medium Onset
Started late morning, complaining of not feeling well, her eyes hurt, throat hurt, back ached, headache.   Felt like she had a bit of a fever. Demanding a lot of attention, wanted me with her, clinging to me, asking for a backrub, moaning, but then would seem better after a bit.

Mind: (These were what really stood out to me, as they were very different from her usual self.)
She was VERY needy and clingy! Would even follow me from room to room, clinging or hanging on me. Much pitiful and anguished crying, moaning and groaning. She kept tossing around the bed, couldn’t get comfortable, demanding one thing, then another. She never fell asleep, which seemed unusual with the high fever she had. Instead, she was very restless and demanding.
I was reading through Sandra Perko’s, “The Homeopathic Treatment of Influenza”, reading a few snippets to my other daughter, asking if she thought this or that sounded right to her. Lily spoke up and said, “Do you have the rubric, “Grumpy” in there? Because that’s what I am!”. [You know it’s a homeopath’s kid, when they know what a rubric is!]
She kept needing something different: a drink-but it needed more ice!; she wanted hot tea, but then didn’t drink it, as it tasted ‘funny’; the pillows weren’t arranged the right way—“You KNOW I don’t like them like this—that hurts my neck!”; when reading her a book, I wasn’t making the voice correctly; she was burning hot—didn’t want a cover, but next thing she’s cold and wants covers—that lasts only a minute or so before she flings it off again; her sister was rustling her paper too loud; her brother was making too much noise, her sister was 'breathing too loud and annoying!", overly sensitive to noise, in general, etc.
[The next day, she said, “I sure was crying a lot yesterday!” (She definitely was!)]

She said there were only four places she could sleep: on the bedroom floor, in the car (everytime we went anywhere, she would fall asleep-very unusual for her, and the ONLY time she fell asleep the entire day.), hanging onto her big brother’s back (yes, that was pretty weird!), or with me holding her in my arms like a baby. By the end of the day, I don't know about her, but I was exhausted with her being so needy and demanding and not sleeping!


Eyes: Very sore, achey
           Very sensitive to light, both natural and artificial
           wants to rub and press them, but seems to make it worse
           Pupils are normal size; Unusual for her, as hers are often quite dilated
           Her eyes don’t seem to be watering, but she is crying a lot, and has copious tears

Vision: PQRS: When she looked at the off-white walls in a room, they looked green to her!

Ears: Hurt a little bit when swallowing
          Hurts a bit in front of the ears, swollen lymph glands?

Hearing: Acute. Overly sensitive and annoyed to repetitive noises, talking and voices

Face: Very pale
           Says “It feels good to rub my face on you, mommy!”, as she rubs it back and forth, pressing into my chest.
Expression: Anguished! Like she’s in terrible agony, suffering, being tortured! Looks very sickly. This expression was so exaggerated and anguished, it was almost comical!

Mouth: Tongue looks very normal—no coating or discoloration, which surprises me, as her breath is quite offensive.

Teeth: Complains of her teeth hurting, esp the back molars
            PQRS—wants to bite on something very hard. Is biting down hard on my arm—not aggressively, but because of this very strong need to bite down hard. “I want a bone! Get me a bone to chew on! I need to bite something hard!”

Throat: Cries that her throat hurts, “I can barely breathe! It’s hard to breathe! It feels like I’m choking! I can’t swallow!”, very panicky. But, once I am lying beside her, this seems to get better. She can’t open it wide enough for me to see down, and her tongue’s in the way. (She has a really tiny little mouth!) It seems strange to me, as she doesn’t seem to have any congestion or mucus, in either her throat or nose.

External Throat: Some swelling and tendernness of glands.

Stomach: Thirsty, but drinks only small sips at a time (This is very typical of her, though—she has always taken micro-bites and micro-sips.) She wants lots of ice in her water. She sits up frequently to drink. Wants only ice cold, lemon water. When it was first coming on at lunch, she was very particular how she had to have her food prepared, but then she took only 2 bites, and laid her head down on the table. She also didn’t want any breakfast.

                  Around 1 a.m. she was moaning, and said she wished she could throw up, but couldn’t. Came and laid in my arms, but then jumped up and said, “I’m going to throw up if I lay that way!”, and she went in and laid down stomach first on my bed.
At 1:15 a.m. I gave her one dose of Arsenicum album 200C.

                  1:30 a.m., she threw up for the first time. No food mixed in, as she’s only had a couple of bites to eat today. Vomited 4 times, smallish amount, yellow and mucousy. Came up easily. She was burning hot, no perspiration. Afterward, she lay down on her stomach, wanted a cold, wet cloth on her back.
                  5:30 a.m., needed to go throw up, but didn’t want to go into the bathroom by herself. Said, “I can’t throw up if you don’t go with me!”. (She was sleeping next to me in my bed.) I actually don’t remember this, and apparently told her I was too tired to get up. I guess she finally got up by herself and threw up again.)

Bladder: She commented that she’d had to pee a lot today. Around 2 p.m., she said she’d had to pee six times that morning.

Respiration: Seems normal, but a couple of times she complained that she couldn’t breathe (could have been because she was crying so much, though.)

Cough: None

Expectoration: Her nose is very runny, but I think it's more due to all the crying she has been doing, rather than any coryza. The bedsheet and pillow, as well as my shirt are quite wet. I’m not sure if it’s her copious tears, or if it’s from drooling. She keeps rubbing her face into me and the pillow.

Back: Complains of back and neck hurting. > rubbing Wants me to keep massaging her.

Extremeties:   Her legs were very restless, wanted me to rub them.

Sleep: When I first realized she was really getting sick was when she fell asleep in the car, almost mid-sentence, in the morning, and she’d only been up a few hours. But, as soon as I stopped the car, she woke up immediately, and went right into 'demand mode' again. She had to have me with her, clinging to me, yet it was very difficult for her to go to sleep. I thought with the fever she had, she would have quickly fallen asleep, but she was very restless, demanding and critical, and insisted that I stay with her. But, she never really fell asleep. Instead she just moaned and cried and was persnickety. If I got up to do something, she would get up and follow me, clinging to me. I finally went in to prepare lunch, and, even though she could barely move, she crawled into the kitchen and clung to the back of my leg.

Chill: She didn’t complain of chills, really, which was why I hadn’t given her Arsenicum sooner. Only a few times did she say she was cold, but it only lasted seconds before she’d fling the cover off.

Fever: She had a 104 degree temperature (high) for the entire day and night. Even after giving her the Arsenicum, though she appeared to feel much better, her temperature remained high until around noon the next day (lasted about 26 hours). This seemed like a very prolonged high fever to me, especially for her age (age 9). It was a very dry fever—her skin was burning hot and dry.

Perspiration: None-she had a dry, burning fever

Skin: Nothing too remarkable, though at one time she complained of her skin ‘hurting’, by which I think she meant it was sensitive.

REMEDIES I GAVE AND RESULTS:
When she first started complaining, and I thought it might be the flu, I gave her Oscillococcinum 200C, and it seemed to have no effect, which really surprised me! This had worked to a degree in the Spring, but has seemed not effective with this round.

A bit later, because of the heightened sensitivity to light, noise, headache, and her irritability and grumpiness, I decided to try Nux vomica 30C, which was the only potency I had at home. Again, nothing.

Paul Herscu has said that Nux vomica is the genus epidemicus, so I was willing to test this theory out further. So, I drove to my office and got Nux-v 200C. Again, nothing.

Although she did have so many symptoms of Aresenicum, I usually think of Arsenicum as being too cold. Of course, it also has the polarity, just not as well known. Arsenicum can definitely have a dry, burning, intense heat, with no perspiration. And, then with the constant restlessness, intense need to be with company, couldn’t be alone, persnickety behavior, the thirsty for small sips and the waking at 1 a.m.,
I decided to give her Arsenicum 200C.

Also, Arsenicum covers her PQRS (Peculiar, Queer, Rare and Strange) symptoms:
Desire for biting something hard, we see in these rubrics:
TEETH: Pain: biting teeth together: amel.
TEETH: Pain: molars, bicuspids.
MOUTH: BITES THE GLASS WHEN DRINKING.

The white walls appearing green:
VISION: Colors before the eyes: green.
"Everything. appears green"
"Iris disclosed, reacting sluggishly; sight cloudy; sees as if through a white gauze; everything appears green; retinitis albuminurica."



Within 15 minutes whe vomited, and after that, she was finally able to sleep normally. The next day, she was a bit weak in the morning, but by noon, she was perfectly back to normal. By that afternoon, she kept enthusiastically saying "Mommy, I feel great! I just feel really good!", so let's not forget the BENEFICIAL role that catching a flu may have on someone, just as the childhood diseases have an important purpose in a child's development. There are very few times as adults, that we will get a fever. But, fever and coughs and colds act as a 'housecleaning' to our bodies, quickly and effeciently burning up much of the 'gunk' we all accumulate in our bodies. So, perhaps not something to be so afraid of, after all.

Five days after my youngest daughter got it, my middle daughter came down with it. The little one had been clinging to and sneezing and rubbing her face, with all of her tears and runny nose, all over her sister and myself. My middle daughter went to an overnight birthday party--a Harry Potter Movie Marathon, where they were watching 3 Harry Potter movies the first day, and 3 the next, the last one to be the newest one, at the theatre.

Apparently, my daughter started getting a headache and sore throat the second day, but she just figured it was from being up late and watching so much TV (she normally watches very little). By the time they got to the movie theatre, she felt like she needed to vomit, but couldn't. 10 minutes into the movie, she suddenly threw up, but at least caught most of it in her hand and her shirt. The mom helped her clean up, and then they came back in. 10 minutes later, she erupted again, but this time...didn't quite make it
Apparently, she threw up all over in the hallway that leads to the theatres.
The mom told me she'd never seen so much vomit before!     (And, this is not a kid who usually vomits--maybe only once in her whole life!) So, I'm guessing that the lucky 16 year old who got to clean THAT up, was thinking twice about the 'cushy job' he'd bragged to all his friends about!   

Anyway, I got THE CALL, so sped down there to pick up my daughter, during rush hour traffic. As soon as I saw her, the same pale face, anguished expression and she was freezing, I immediately gave her Arsenicum 200C. What was really strange, though, is before I even got out of the parking lot, I began feeling very nauseated myself! I had had a headache and mild sore throat all day, but just thought it due to the intense heat we'd been having. By the time I was on the highway, I felt so ill, I thought I would have to pull off the road to vomit. I had my daughter sprinkle some Ars 200C in my mouth, and I gradually began feeling less green. Within about 40 minutes of taking the Arsenicum, neither of us felt ill anymore at all.

Since then, I've had a number of calls from people thinking they're coming down with the flu, and, so far, they've each responded quite rapidly to the Arsenicum 200C. I've had a few that only had a 30C available, and it hasn't seemed to work as well--their flu has come back, a relapse, in a few days.   

So I find it very interesting that over in India, they are also saying Arsenicum seems to be one of the indicated remedies. Arsenicum is also one of the few remedies listed under fevers in the summer. The others are: FEVER, HEAT; SUMMER (20) : ant-c., ars., bell., bry., calc., caps., carb-v., cedr., chin., cina, eup-per., gels., ip., lach., nat-m., psor., puls., sulph., thuj., verat.
I'm not sure why I can't underline these properly, but these are the underlined Rxs in this rubric:
ars., bell., bry., calc., caps. gels., ip., lach psor. sulph.

So, hope this helps some,
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Dr. K,

The Mahabharata - the great Indian epic - predicted that in this day and age people will give birth at 9 years of age and be very, very old by the time they reach 30.

.... I soooooooo know the feeling!   At age 37, I am old and crippled now. Confused

A fun side consideration for you, however!  You know all these reports of little, green men from Mars?  All these UFO tales of big-headed, toddler-like, space aliens?   Hmmm....I wonder.  You think maybe they are just a whole race of future humans come back into the past?  Maybe human species from other star systems?  Maybe out there, they do have children at age 4 and are wise, old men by age 10?!   Perhaps we Earthlings have mostly be visited and played with by demonic little children running around in spacecraft?!! Confused







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Hey Dr Quack, 

How are things? Besides feeling like a cripple?

Nope, those little green men i never saw. I though Mars is the red planet! So these little space aliens should be red and not green, don't you think?

All jokes aside, here is the reality.
As to girls giving birth at 9, this has already happened here in Brazil. 
If you would read that book, you'd find many things it says has already come to pass. 
In India, the cow is sacred, but they kill them by the 1000s for the hide. They throw the carcass to the dogs! McDonalds has opened restaurants in the mainly vegetarian country and offers meat and alcohol. In Kolkata, the place got torched in 2006 and they will not re-open. The burnt out shell is still standing. 
The same book says that the whole world will become mleccha, or meat-eaters. Mc Don's is proof of that too. So i am not joking or so, or tell you fantastic stories.

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And to Tracy,

Do you bring your car to the garage to be fixed when it runs properly?
Prophylaxis is trying to fix what is not broken. In the process you will most likely break it - like vaccines and vaccinosis, homoeopathy can also set up lasting reactions when given too much. See the patient thread for a case, by Fallen.

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"Prophylaxis is trying to fix what is not broken"................. posted Kaviraj
 
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Yes Gina,

It is the working title of a book on vaccinosis I have in the scaffolding.

"Don't fix what is not broken".

Have also put in much info on the limbic system, which is damaged from vaccine-induced encephalitis. The personality changes are well-known, but nobody mentions the limbic system damage - conveniently or ignorantly overlooked.

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Flu vaccine side effects

Flu vaccine side effects are seldom considered by the majority of people who wish to protect themselves against the flu.

They simply assume that vaccination is both effective and safe. That's what they have been told by doctors and that is what they accept without questioning.

All these assumptions are WRONG. Vaccination does not offer effective protection against the flu. And we shall discuss the effectiveness of flu vaccines in another article. For now, we shall look at flu vaccine side effects.

Far from being safe, some of the flu shot side effects are very serious, including death. For children, vaccination has also been strongly linked with increased incidences of autism.

The basic problem with vaccination is that it is based on the wrong idea that bacteria and viruses "cause" disease.

But, as we see in the article about the germ theory of disease, this is a faulty idea to begin with. Based on this idea, doctors expose people to small doses of weakened bacteria or viruses, in the belief that it would stimulate their immune response against disease.

But vaccines don't just contain the weakened bactria or virus. They also cotain a lot of very highly toxic chemicals, including mercury, aluminium and formaldehyde. These partly account for flu vaccine side effects - and the dangers of vaccination in general. At the same time, the weakened bacteria or virus presents its own set of dangers too.


Harm of vaccination

Before we look specifically at flu vaccine side effects, we consider the dangers of vaccination in general. And the first thing to note is that vaccination has not stopped people from “catching” the very diseases that they have been vaccinated against. Despite vaccination, many diseases are again on the rise:

* In Namibia, 27 cases of paralytic polio were reported in 1993 - 94, although 80 percent of the population has full vaccination coverage.
* In the US, there were 6,335 cases or pertussis in 1993, the highest number in 26 years. In Cincinnati, 82 percent of the cases had at least 3 doses of the DPT (diptheria, pertusis, tetanus) vaccine.

In a February 1995 article, The Lancet discusses the harm of vaccination in an article, Measles and pertussis in developing countries with good vaccine coverage. The article reported that among those who have been vaccinated, these diseases often return in a more virulent form. Unfortunately, rather than re-think vaccination, the article went to on recommend more vaccination, at an earlier age.

Childhood diseases like measles and pertussis, or whooping cough, are actually the body's way of throwing off inherited impurities. They are often harmless. A study of 500 pertussis cases, published in early 1995 in the British Medical Journal, found that most cases were mild. Only 5 cases developed pneumonia. Of these, 3 had been vaccinated.

Because childhood illnesses are a means of discharge, suppressing them through vaccination often leads to more serious, long-term illnesses. Thus, the harm of vaccination lies not only in its side efects, but also in its role in suppressing natural -- and necessary -- body processes:

* One study found that absence of measles is associated with “development of immureactive diseases, sebaceous skin diseases, degenerative diseases of bone and cartilage, and certain tumours.
* Crohn's disease “a chronic inflammation of the intestines“ occurs three times more often in people vaccinated against measles.
* Absence of mumps is linked to higher risks of ovarian cancer.

By suppressing diseases during childhood, these same diseases may occur in adult life, where there is higher risk of complications. Less than 5 percent of children under 3 years infected with hepatitis A become jaundiced. In contrast, 75 percent of infected adolescents and adults develop acute symptoms. By allowing childhood diseases to run their natural course, children develop long-term immunity without harm to the body's immune system.


Human degeneration

The harm of vaccination was recognised as far back as 1884. At that time, J Compton Burnett, an English homeopath, wrote: "The vaccinated person is poisoned by the vaccine virus."

Burnett notes that vaccination is successful only when a person reacts to the virus. If not, the virus gets absorbed. And this leads to what he called "chronic vaccinosis" -- a chronic form of the very same disease that the person was supposed to have been vaccinated against.

Early in the 20th century, American homeopath J H Allen warned that with vaccination, "the whole race will soon become degenerated."

One vocal critic of vaccination is Dr R Obomsawin, describes it as "a futile dream".

Dr Obomsawin was originally commissioned by the Canadian International Development Agency to write about the benefits of vaccination. But after his research, he wrote instead about the harm of vaccination. Dr Obomsawin even questioned the ethics of it: Vaccination inevitably weakens the immunologic system of the child, leaving this system crippled in its ability to protect the child throughout life.

By weakening the immune system, vaccination contributes to auto-immune and degenerative diseases and allergic reactions. In his book, Vaccination, Social Violence and Criminality, medical historian H L Coulter draws links between vaccination and autism, minimal brain damage, anti-social behaviour and violent crime. The link between autism and vaccinations has today become one of the most serious challenges to the safety of vaccination.


Why are vaccines so harmful?

When we look at why are vaccines so harmful, we can better understand some of the flu vaccine side effects.

One reason is that in order to produce vaccines, the bacteria and viruses are cultivated in animal proteins, such as rabbit brain tissue, monkey kidney tissue, pig blood, etc. When injected into the body, these proteins turn toxic because proteins have to be broken down into amino acids by the digestive system before they can be utilised.

Another problem is that the child's immune system is not fully developed until about the age of 4. The child's undeveloped immune system may not be able to distinguish between its own protein and foreign proteins. This can lead to auto-immune diseases, where the body's immune system attacks its own cells.

Foreign proteins also contain animal genetic information which may be picked up by the vaccine and implanted into human genes. This can result in genetic damage.

Combining several vaccines can result in strange new viruses that cause strange new diseases. George Vithoulkas, a world-renowned homeopath, states: "Instead of protecting people through vaccination, we are making humanity sick on a chronic level."


Mild flu vaccine side effects

We now take a closer look at some of the more specific, possible flu vaccine side effects.

MILD flu vaccine side effects are common and these are acknowledged by government health authorities such as the US Center for Disease Control (CDC). These flu vaccine side effects include:

* Soreness, redness, or swelling where the shot was given
* Low grade fever
* Aches

At the same time, the CDC acknowledges that on rare occasions, flu vaccination can cause serious problems, such as severe allergic reactions. And the US government has established a National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) for those who believe they have been injured by vaccination.

Nasal flu vaccines

Besides flu shots, nasal-spray vaccines, called FluMist® are have been available since its approval by the US FDA in June 2003. And one of the first things to note is that this vaccine was initially not approved in 2001 because of safety concerns.

The flu vaccine side effects of nasal sprays include:
For children:

* runny nose
* headache
* wheezing
* vomiting
* muscle aches
* fever

For adults:

* runny nose
* headache
* sore throat
* cough

These side effects may not seem very serious, but it is worth noting that they are remarkably similar to flu symptoms. So why the CDC assures that nasal-spray flu vaccines will not give you the flu, well, they will give you flu symptoms.

This flu vaccine is not recommended for pregnant women or those with asthma, chronic lung or heart disease; chronic underlying medical conditions such as diabetes or kidney disorders; immune suppression or immune system problems; children or adolescents receiving aspirin therapy, anyone allergic to eggs; or those with a history of Guillain Barre syndrome. And it should not be given simultaneously with other vaccines.

If it is that safe, why the long list of people who should not be given this flu vaccine? Critics of nasal spray flu vaccines also point out that its most common flu vaccine side effect - runny nose - will result in the spreading of the flu virus.

So those vaccinated are advised to avoid close contact with immune-compromised individuals for at least 21 days. The question is, who are these "immune compromised individuals"? Well, they range from people with cancer and organ transplants to people with the flu and even people under stress - which can be just about anybody!

Some hospital personnel are asking those recently vaccinated with Flumist to avoid visiting patients in hospitals to prevent the risk of transmitting the vaccine strain virus to sick patients.


More serious flu vaccine side effects

The more serious possible flu vaccine side effects, however, are seldom discussed ny mainstream health authorities

* Alzheimer's disease
There is emerging evidence that flu vaccine side effects include Alzheimer's disease. Hugh Fudenberg, MD, an immunogeneticist and biologist, studied individuals who received flu shots over a 10-year period between 1970 and 1980. And he found that those who had five consecutive flu shots during the period had 10 times higher risks of developing Alzheimer's Disease, compared to those who had fewer than two flu shots.

Alzheimer's disease has been linked to both mercury and aluminium poisoning and both these substances are present, in toxic amounts, in flu vaccines.

* Guillian Barr syndrome, which causes crippling of the limbs, is another disease listed among the possible flu vaccine side effects. This was first reported in a 1976 study involving swine flu vaccination. The official line from mainstream health authorities is that subsequent studies found the risk to be very small - about one person out out one million vaccinated individuals might develop Guillian Barr Syndrome.

In September 1995, however, the US FDA reported that five college students developed Guillian Barr Syndrome after receiving the meningococcal vaccine against meningitis - an illness with symptoms similar to those of the flu. And in November 2006, Canadian researchers reported a slight rise in the incidence of Guillian Barr Syndrome among those given flu shots.

* Arthritis and joint inflammation are also among the possible flu vaccine side effects.

And in the case of Tamiflu, which has become a highly sought antiviral flu drug in recent years, its side effects include abnormal behavior, neuropsychiatric problems like convulsions, delirium or delusions, and brain infections, In Japan, there were reported cases of young people commiting suicide after being given the Tamiflu vaccine.
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This is the only doctor who speaks about damage to the limbic system.

Search the web and find out that there is nobody else who discusses the limbic system damage from vaccination.

Glad to see i am not the only one.

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Dear Kaviraj
I have a patient who was pregnant with her son when  she decided it was SAFE to get a flu shot (because her MD said it was SAFE!)
When her son was born he was severly learning disabled now is classified as Autistic!
She knows its the flushot that caused this. Her MD's deny everything!
 
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Gina,

there are no safe vaccines, period. But you and I know this, just as most other homoeopaths.
My kids never got vaccinated and never will. My children also did not get youth acne, are brighter in school, never get the flu anyway and if they get something, they recover 20 times faster than vaccinated kids. My youngest son cycles to school, sweats like a pig doing so and still never gets even a cold - not even in the flu season. His friends all get sick after such bouts of exertion, because their bodies have no defense against such temperature shocks.

I always hold him up as the perfect example why vaccines are bad for you. Parents have the audacity to deny the connections, because their GP told them IT DOES NOT EXIST. Doctors are about the most ignorant concerning side effects, because the vaccine makers tell them THERE ARE NO SIDE EFFECTS EXCEPT MILD ONES. Recent admissions tell us that 60% plus of doctors are completely ignorant about side effects of any drugs! Other recent admissions of Industry Captains speak of the fact that 90% of their drugs DO NOTHING FOR THE DISEASE THEY WERE MADE FOR!

Ah, for decent medicine one has to see a homoeopath.

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HURRAH! REAL ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN! HATS OFF FOR THIS HERO!

Preliminary Injunction to Halt Mandatory Flu Vaccination in the U.S. Has Been Issued
Written by Barbara Minton, Natural News  
Tuesday, 11 August 2009 15:29
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A Preliminary Injunction to stop mandatory vaccinations has been issued in the United States District Court of New Jersey. This comes after a federal lawsuit opposing forced vaccines was filed in that court by Tim Vawter, pro se attorney, on July 31st with the federal government as defendant. When the judge signs the Preliminary Injunction, it will stop the federal government from forcing anyone in any state to take flu vaccine against their will. It will also prevent a state or local government from forcibly vaccinating anyone, and forbid any person who is not vaccinated from being denied any services or constitutional rights. Vawter's filings included a Complaint, and several pages of evidentiary Exhibits.


Vawter's legal papers have been written not only for filing in federal court, but additionally so they can be looked at by activists around the world for ideas on filing lawsuits in their own countries to help stop forced vaccinations. Vawter believes that as the truth of the dangers of flu vaccines continues to become known, banning the forced use of them will eventually succeed on a worldwide basis. He cautions people to avoid fear and keep themselves focused on the task of blocking forced vaccination.

Preliminary Injunction will immediately halt mandatory vaccinations in the U.S.


The Court, having heard the Motion for Preliminary Injunction and read the papers in its support, states in the Preliminary Injunction that it appears the federal government has engaged in some amount of negligence with regards to failure to properly investigate the safety of the flu vaccines scheduled for use in late 2009-2010, and the evidence submitted does warrant a more thorough investigation into the safety of the flu vaccines.

The Court ordered that the government shall be forbidden from forcing any person to be required to take any influenza vaccination against that person's free will and free choice. The government will not allow any state or local government, or any party, to force any person to be required to take any influenza vaccination against that person's free will and free choice.

It is further ordered that the government shall not deny any constitutional rights to any person who has not received a flu vaccine, nor allow any doctor, company, or other party to deny any of these people services such as medical care, attending school, or similar services or freedoms, nor can the government allow any doctors, companies, or other parties, to deny any of these people their constitutional rights. The only exception to this, where a person who does not get a flu vaccination might be denied certain services, shall be after it is shown in a court of law, with clear and convincing evidence, on an individual case-by-case basis, where due process and a right to a defense is allowed. Only then can a person be denied a particular service because the person did not receive a flu vaccine.

U.S. government sued for gross negligence and violation of the Constitution


In his Cause of Action, Vawter charged that the federal government has engaged in gross negligence by funding and promoting flu vaccines that are proven to be dangerous and manufactured with little oversight. The vaccines scheduled for use in late 2009 and 2010 contain heavy metals including thimerosal mercury, which have been proven to cause autism in children with lowered immune systems, and other dangerous and toxic ingredients. The federal government has stated it will force these flu vaccines onto the American public against their will, under a document signed by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.

He further charged that the vaccine makers stand to earn billions of dollars selling vaccines, and are already spending tens of millions advertising a "Phase 6 Pandemic" that the evidence shows does not really exist. The federal government has not required the World Health Organization (WHO) to show evidence of such a pandemic. There has been no collection of facts, sworn testimony, witnesses being questioned, hearings being held, or lie detector tests being given when preposterous statements have been made. The WHO declared a massive "Phase 6 Influenza Pandemic", even though only a few hundred people worldwide had so far died of this swine flu virus, and when far more people die each year of regular flu.

Vawter noted there is a preponderance of evidence to show that the federal government so poorly trained its employees that they eagerly agreed with the unsubstantiated claims of the WHO in the face of evidence to the contrary.

Forced vaccination would violate the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution by allowing the government to enter homes and force people to be vaccinated, or to forcibly remove people to another location for vaccination. It would also violate Fifth Amendment Constitutional rights by depriving people of liberty without due process of law.

Vawter charged that the federal government has engaged in gross negligence by failing to properly investigate factual evidence submitted by esteemed medical professions over many years which proves flu vaccines have caused serious damage to people. The CDC has stated that thimerosal mercury is being used in the new flu vaccines being prepared.

The government has failed to investigate profiteering. Billions of dollars in vaccine sales can cause organizations to falsify threats so as to cause unwarranted public hysteria leading to forced vaccinations.

The government is guilty of gross negligence because its employees failed to properly investigate the release of a case of live swine flu virus. One of the main companies the government deals with, Baxter Vaccines, was apparently involved in the transporting of live bird flu virus that was released on a public train earlier this year. A lab technician with the Swiss National Center for Influenza in Geneva had traveled to Zurich to collect eight ampoules, five of which were filled with the H1N1 swine flu virus. However, failure of the dry ice in their container allowed pressure to build up, and the ampoules exploded as the train was pulling into a station.

The highly reputable UK newspaper "the Telegraph" reported on July 2nd that flu vaccines tested on homeless people caused twenty-one of them to die.

Vawter charged there is a preponderance of evidence to show that government will not provide people being vaccinated with a list of the vaccine ingredients and possible negative side effects before they are vaccinated. Most of the public will not know this flu vaccine contains thimerosal mercury.

Vawter submitted an Order to force the government to publish vaccine ingredients and side effects, and to give this information to everyone who takes a flu vaccine, and do so at least 3 days prior to their vaccination. A denial of this order would violate Plaintiff's rights to demand the government obey the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution by requiring it to engage in freedom of speech. The First Amendment not only allows a citizen to have freedom of speech himself, but it allows a citizen to demand his government engage in freedom of speech when it is promoting the use of such as these vaccinations to the public.

The government proclamation stating a person cannot sue for any damages he receives from the flu vaccine, completely bypasses the congress and the court system in violation of the Seventh Amendment of the Constitution which grants the right to sue to recover for damages. Vawter submitted an Order to deem unconstitutional any proclamation, rule or similar law that forbids people from suing for damages resulting from the vaccines of 2009 and 2010.

Vawter is seeking damages of $100,000.00 as the result of suffering depression, extreme anxiety and emotional duress when his nephew began life as a healthy, happy baby boy, only to come down with autism after being given baby vaccines that contained thimerosal mercury. For years his nephew has struggled with this incredibly debilitating, preventable condition. According to Vawter, a claim may be submitted not only by his nephew, but by others who have suffered damages from vaccinations.

Vawter claimed that several rules and proclamations detailed in the lawsuit are unconstitutional and claimed that if they are not stricken and amended, he and other people who may not be aware of the offenses or who may be unable to sue, will suffer pending "injury-in-fact" damages. As attorneys and law firms join this lawsuit, recovery requests will reveal the names of additional people who have suffered injuries so they can be contacted about recovering damages, as the law allows.

Motion for Preliminary Injunction claims some vaccines may contain live virus

Although much of the Preliminary Injunction is a reiteration of information contained in his lawsuit, there are a few additions of note. Vawter includes in his grounds the fact that since the manufacturing of flu vaccines involves first destroying a live flu virus, there is a possibility that live flu virus will be in some of the vaccines, causing even more damages to people who receive it, and spreading the virus.

He asked the Court to use federal law enforcement to initiate its own civil and criminal investigation into flu vaccine safety issue, as federal law allows for this.

He noted the days when Hitler's Nazi doctors forcibly gave shots containing adjuvants to innocent people, and reminded that Nazi ideology was stamped out precisely because of those atrocities. He claims it is unwise for the U.S. government to follow in the same path as the Nazis. America is a nation of civil laws, not a dictatorship that gives proclamations bypassing the courts and congress to demand forced vaccinations containing hazardous ingredients known to cause damages.

The forced vaccination debacle of 1976 that the government had to halt because it was injuring more people than it was protecting shows vaccine makers should not be allowed to force their vaccines on people who have no recourse. The prohibition against lawsuits by the injured gives the green light to vaccine makers to include thimerosal mercury in their new flu vaccines. When the Order deeming the forbidding of lawsuits as unconstitutional is given, any defendant will have to present factual proof in federal court, not just hearsay or advertising slogans, as so why the Constitution says it is okay to forbid people from suing to recover damages resulting from flu vaccine.

Medical professionals argue flu vaccines harm not just certain people but almost everyone who receives them. Yet the government has ignored factual evidence proving this, and instead listens to a profit run group of vaccine manufacturers who stand to earn billions of dollars as the government orders forced vaccinations on the public for the coming flu season.

The government has published a chart listing the WHO's "Phase 6 Influenza Pandemic" as being equal to an earthquake measuring 8.0 on the Richter Scale. This chart is preposterous because there are no factual criteria required for an "Influenza Pandemic" to be declared by the United Nations' WHO. The United Nations is a collective of numerous nations, most of whom have very different laws than the U.S. has, and where their leaders can simply declare or proclaim things to be so without judicial review, and their population must obey.

Glaxo Smith Kline stands to make $4 billion from its two flu vaccine drugs. CEO Andrew Witty has said his company has been preparing for a flu pandemic for thee years and has spent over $1 billion to expand its factories. Executives from Glaxo, Baxter, Novartis, and Sanofi Pasteur had seats at the advisory group that on July 13th recommended mandatory H1N1 vaccination for everyone in all 194 countries belonging to the WHO.

The fear mongering involved with this Phase 6 alert has been intense. An example being spread by interested parties is the story of a girl in England purported by the WHO to have died of swine flu because she was not vaccinated. A more thorough investigation later revealed the girl actually died of septic shock due to tonsillitis. The WHO, CDC and numerous vaccine companies have been extensively advertising dire yet apparently concocted warnings of flu pandemics. Yet only a small number of people worldwide have died from the new flu virus.

When influential TV newscasters questioned the WHO proclaiming a "Phase 6 Influenza Pandemic" without factual evidence to prove it, the WHO responded by simply stopping their tracking of swine flu cases, a bizarre behavior on the part of an organization designated to be the main hub for information gathering on the disease.

 
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There was a revised article that came out after this one was published
 
 
See HWC- (Vaccine Law discussion)
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Thanx Gina, 
shall have a look.

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Thanks, Avril – another nicely-detailed case.  Yes, I recall you posted some cases on the ‘2009 Flu, case symptoms….’ thread.  Is this case there, too?  If not, might be good to post it there.

 

http://www.hpathy.com/homeopathyforums/forum_posts.asp?TID=9555&KW=2009

 

Kavi, Gina - I DO understand your point.  But I think that exposure AND SUSCEPTIBILITY should be taken into account.  The epidemics/ pandemics of the past only flourished because a certain segment of the population was susceptible.  Which means that something WAS already ‘broken’ in those who contracted the illness and their ‘car’ WAS NOT running properly, though it might have seemed so.

 

I don’t know about you, but I can name very few people who appear to be in perfect health, or who have no health vulnerabilities.  I am certainly not one of them. 

 

If I get bitten by a tick, do I assume that the tick carried no infections (like Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella, Erlichilia, Mycoplasma, tick-borne encephalitis, etc.) and do nothing?  Or should I follow a simple protocol of ‘preventative’ homeopathics to reduce my chances of contracting a debilitating infection?

 

What did the homeopaths do 100 years ago?  At what point did they administer prophylactic treatment to those possibly exposed?  How did they determine when to act pre-emptively?  What, exactly, constitutes ‘exposure’?

 

Re the article you posted, Kavi…… interesting, though I don’t entirely trust some ‘facts’ stated in it.  I would like to read an account by a different author before making any assessment.

 

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  Quote Kaviraj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Aug. 09 at 07:57
Hi Tracy,

Then i suggest you read Bechamps, Pasteur's teacher and better.
"The Third Element of the Blood." Google the name or the title and the book is for free. A great education and fascinating reading!

He stated the same and was the greatest scientist of his time. Maybe you can accept his authority. He just got overshadowed by his pupil who stole the limelight by plagiarism.

As for the homoeopaths of 100 years ago, read Kent's "Lesser Writings" about prophylaxis and epidemics.

To the argument about ticks, once the disease begins, it is time enough to treat it before it fully can develop. But that is a question of skill, which admittedly is not equal in each homoeopath. I see therefore your point and I think that is a wise take on the subject.

All else, it is a matter of judgement - i cannot judge for you and leave you to make your own decisions.

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